Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/04/15

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Subject: [Leica] Leica R lenses and Olympus E-510
From: jayanand at (Jayanand Govindaraj)
Date: Tue Apr 15 18:42:40 2008
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If you buy appropriate glass for the D300 (14-24, 24-70, 70-200 all f2.8,
all AFS/VR) it will blow you away. I only have the last one, and it is
superb, but I am really lusting after the seems to be one of the
best lenses ever made.

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 2:43 AM, Richard Man <>

> At 08:12 AM 4/15/2008, F?elix L?opez de Maturana wrote:
>  The APS-C sensor is not a whole lot bigger than the 4/3 sensor,
> > > especially on the vertical height dept. Any noise complaints about 4/3 
> > > can
> > > be applied to APS-C!
> > >
> > >  Actually this is not exact. A nikon D300 or a Canon 40D produce
> > images cleaner at 1.600 ISO and beyond, than even the Olympus E3 cannot
> > match. The Nikon D3 -24x36mm that is true- can go - with ugly images- up 
> > to
> > ISO 25.600 but has ISO 6.400 pictures never seen before.
> >
> A wise saleperson told me this: if I buy the E-3, I'd regret at times that
> I don't have the D300, but I have bought the D300, I'd regret that at times
> I don't have the E-3. So it goes. If the D300 and 40D produce cleaner 
> images
> at ISO1600, chances are it's the firmware and other reasons, rather than
> pure sensor size that's the factors. Think of the D200. The D300 blows that
> away too, by all accounts.the
> The proof is in the pictures. I shot about 5000 frames at 3 concerts. The
> hit rate is probably around 1/20, for acceptable pictures. Would I have 
> done
> better with the D300? I doubt it. Would I have loved to shoot at 1600 at
> times? I did, and the RAW converted images are just fine. Heck, I even shot
> at ISO2000 and 3200 for a few frames. Do I love those Zuiko Digital glass?
> You betcha. Edge to edge sharpness, same goes with the fisheye.
> We can argue until GB's cows come home about which camera is the best, but
> unless you are actually shooting pictures with them, then they are just the
> best paperweight.
> // richard (This email is for mailing lists. To reach me directly, please
> use richard at
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In reply to: Message from felixmaturana at (FÂelix LÂopez de Maturana) ([Leica] Leica R lenses and Olympus E-510)
Message from richard-lists at (Richard Man) ([Leica] Leica R lenses and Olympus E-510)