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Subject: [Leica] Shoot with what you brung
From: kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour)
Date: Fri Mar 21 15:26:17 2008
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On Mar 21, 2008, at 3:21 PM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote:
> George that is an earnest and thoughtful reply to a lighter hearted
> throwaway line. In your vein, I ought to have said, it is easier to  
> degrade
> an image made by a good quality system than to go the other way.  
> However I
> take your point that those simple systems may have a unique  
> fingerprint.


of course a fingerprint is a fingerprint, because of some degree of  
accuracy and resolution,


without that it's just a smudge,

Steve
>
> Similarly it might not be sensible to try to emulate that  
> fingerprint. I
> don't wish to do that, but I know where I would start in Photoshop.  
> Actually
> you have piqued my interest now, and I need the practice. I might  
> Google up
> some Holga originals and have a play from something more Leica like.  
> I don't
> subscribe to the viewpoint that a lens can be too sharp for a  
> particular
> subject though.
> But you have repeated the argument in essence that competence with  
> your
> camera and photographic skill are the most important factors in  
> making a
> worthy image. That being accepted, better equipment with the same  
> skill set
> and circumstance will make better photographs. Else you might be  
> satisfied
> shooting only with a camera-phone or similar.
> What are those appealing qualities for you in the LOMO or Holga  
> images;
> lower contrast and saturation, soft focus effect? I genuinely feel,  
> that
> Holga folks are really saying 'look at the picture I made despite  
> having the
> most basic camera' I'd rather say 'look at the picture I made as I  
> try to
> live up to the quality of my camera' Both valid certainly.
> We can meet on the common ground of 'Jeez, look at that'...click
>
> Cheers
> Geoff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Shoot with what you brung
>
> I respectfully disagree. The various 'plastic' cameras have very
> distinct and unique signatures - each as a group - and further the
> individual camera. As with any other photographic tool; getting to
> know your camera and lens and selecting subjects, lighting
> conditions, and composing for that tool is what makes photographs
> sing. In my opinion trying to holgatize an M8/50luxasph image in
> photoshop would be a time-consuming, highly suspicious hoax.
>
> Fond regards,
> George
> george@imagist.com
> www.imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com/blog
> Picture A Week - www.imagist.com/paw_07
>
>
>
> On Mar 21, 2008, at 1:37 AM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote:
>
>> I can lomotomize the
>> pics later if I want!
>
>
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best,
Steve

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In reply to: Message from ausdlk at gmail.com (David Keenan) ([Leica] Re: Dave's PAW (*) 2008 #11)
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