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Subject: [Leica] Shoot with what you brung
From: hoppyman at (Geoff Hopkinson)
Date: Fri Mar 21 15:21:59 2008
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George that is an earnest and thoughtful reply to a lighter hearted
throwaway line. In your vein, I ought to have said, it is easier to degrade
an image made by a good quality system than to go the other way. However I
take your point that those simple systems may have a unique fingerprint.
Similarly it might not be sensible to try to emulate that fingerprint. I
don't wish to do that, but I know where I would start in Photoshop. Actually
you have piqued my interest now, and I need the practice. I might Google up
some Holga originals and have a play from something more Leica like. I don't
subscribe to the viewpoint that a lens can be too sharp for a particular
subject though. 
But you have repeated the argument in essence that competence with your
camera and photographic skill are the most important factors in making a
worthy image. That being accepted, better equipment with the same skill set
and circumstance will make better photographs. Else you might be satisfied
shooting only with a camera-phone or similar. 
What are those appealing qualities for you in the LOMO or Holga images;
lower contrast and saturation, soft focus effect? I genuinely feel, that
Holga folks are really saying 'look at the picture I made despite having the
most basic camera' I'd rather say 'look at the picture I made as I try to
live up to the quality of my camera' Both valid certainly.
We can meet on the common ground of 'Jeez, look at that'


-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [Leica] Shoot with what you brung

I respectfully disagree. The various 'plastic' cameras have very  
distinct and unique signatures - each as a group - and further the  
individual camera. As with any other photographic tool; getting to  
know your camera and lens and selecting subjects, lighting  
conditions, and composing for that tool is what makes photographs  
sing. In my opinion trying to holgatize an M8/50luxasph image in  
photoshop would be a time-consuming, highly suspicious hoax.

Fond regards,
Picture A Week -

On Mar 21, 2008, at 1:37 AM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote:

> I can lomotomize the
> pics later if I want!

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