Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/01/27
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]On Jan 26, 2008, at 8:38 PM, Walt Johnson wrote: > Dear Bro > > Did you ever see the nearly same image of the "other" falling > soldier? Let me put it this way. All the other images of that > particular "shooting session" quite extant. Many images, waving > rifles in the air, touting the enemy, etc. It just doesn't wash for > me.....Now, we have a suitcase of other Capa images....Yet only one > neg of the one falling fellow. hi Walt, If in fact, there is only one...ask Capa when you spot him and Ingrid...other side of the river, why there is only one... :-) Steve > > > Problem with this discussion; Folks take it as an insult to Capa. I > see it as a sign of those particular times. Hell, General > Westmoreland claimed the naplamed viet kids was faked. His opinion > never garnered the vitriolic response a "falling soldier doubter" > gets. :-) > > > Steve Barbour wrote: >> On Jan 26, 2008, at 5:37 PM, B. D. Colen wrote: >> >>> Walt, I love ya like a brother - and I think you're a great >>> shooter. But until I see the negative of the dying soldier having >>> a smoke after Capa shot him dying, I'll believe, based on all I've >>> read and on the fact that Capa has no other image he's accused of >>> faking, that it's real. >>> Remember, this is the guy who admitted he 'cut and ran' on D-day; >>> what other photographer was that honest? >> >> I really buy what BD is selling.... >> >> and I have always felt... >> >> ....that's not the way people fall when they are faking...that's >> the way people fall when they are hit by something, and they are >> out of control... >> >> (but if you weren't convinced before, you won't be convinced now...) >> >> Steve >> >> >> >> >>> >>> Your Bud, >>> B. D. >>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Walt Johnson <walt@waltjohnson.com> >>> >>> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:23:55 >>> To:Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Capa or here we go again >>> >>> >>> Ted >>> >>> I'd never say less than great things about Capa's images (all the >>> others) and his undying and finally dying bravery. The "moment of >>> death" >>> seemed to be a situation which got out of control. Just supposed >>> you'd >>> been on assignment somewhere and send film back to N.Y. (or >>> Montreal) on >>> a plane. When your return you find fame and fortune waiting for you. >>> Some editor had screwed the pooch and made you a star. Geez, I'd not >>> trust myself to turn it down. :-) >>> >>> Honest in Florida >>> >>> Ted Grant wrote: >>>> Walt offered: >>>> >>>> >>>>>> I'll bet I'll never believe in the "moment of death" image. I >>>>>> don't care >>>>>> >>>> how many journalistic sycophants find proof 60 years after the >>>> fact. :-)<<< >>>> >>>> Walt I agree with you having pretty well read everything written >>>> about him >>>> over the years it's one of those "creative war story moments" >>>> that helped >>>> make him the legend he's known as. And yes he earned it with his >>>> undying >>>> bravado. >>>> >>>> Not saying he didn't get into some crazy war scene situations but >>>> the "just >>>> as he was hit soldier" has created so many questions and various >>>> versions of >>>> when and how it was taken it's a tough call to believe it's the >>>> absolute >>>> truth. >>>> >>>> Hey it may well be the absolute moment of truth and good on him >>>> for a great >>>> photograph. >>>> >>>> Although I doubt we'll ever know the truth. >>>> >>>> ted >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca@leica-users.org >>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca@leica-users.org] On Behalf >>>> Of Walt >>>> Johnson >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 1:42 PM >>>> To: Leica Users Group >>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Capa or here we go again >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Ted >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Ted Grant wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> A very interesting discovery indeed. It will start a new series >>>>> of Capa >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> books and magazine articles with never seen before material. And >>>>> given >>>>> >>>> what >>>> >>>> >>>>> I believe has been the best he's known for has been milked to >>>>> death for 50 >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> years, some new photos will be refreshing. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I bet die hard Capa fanatics will think this is like finding the >>>>> Holy >>>>> >>>> Grail! >>>> >>>> >>>>> :-) I suppose it's close considering his position in the photo >>>>> world. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> ted >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>> information >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>> information >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information