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Subject: [Leica] Capa or here we go again
From: kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour)
Date: Sat Jan 26 16:50:45 2008
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On Jan 26, 2008, at 5:37 PM, B. D. Colen wrote:

> Walt, I love ya like a brother - and I think you're a great shooter.  
> But until I see the negative of the dying soldier having a smoke  
> after Capa shot him dying, I'll believe, based on all I've read and  
> on the fact that Capa has no other image he's accused of faking,  
> that it's real.
> Remember, this is the guy who admitted he 'cut and ran' on D-day;  
> what other photographer was that honest?

I really buy what BD is selling....

and I have always felt...

....that's not the way people fall when they are faking...that's the  
way people fall when they are hit by something, and they are out of  
control...

(but if you weren't convinced before, you won't be convinced now...)

Steve




>
> Your Bud,
> B. D.
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Walt Johnson <walt@waltjohnson.com>
>
> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:23:55
> To:Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Capa or here we go again
>
>
> Ted
>
> I'd never say less than great things about Capa's images (all the
> others) and his undying and finally dying bravery. The "moment of  
> death"
> seemed to be a situation which got out of control.  Just supposed  
> you'd
> been on assignment somewhere and send film back to N.Y. (or  
> Montreal) on
> a plane. When your return you find fame and fortune waiting for you.
> Some editor had screwed the pooch and made you a star. Geez, I'd not
> trust myself to turn it down. :-)
>
> Honest in Florida
>
> Ted Grant wrote:
>> Walt offered:
>>
>>
>>>> I'll bet I'll never believe in the "moment of death" image. I  
>>>> don't care
>>>>
>> how many journalistic sycophants find proof 60 years after the  
>> fact. :-)<<<
>>
>> Walt I agree with you having pretty well read everything written  
>> about him
>> over the years it's one of those "creative war story moments" that  
>> helped
>> make him the legend he's known as. And yes he earned it with his  
>> undying
>> bravado.
>>
>> Not saying he didn't get into some crazy war scene situations but  
>> the "just
>> as he was hit soldier" has created so many questions and various  
>> versions of
>> when and how it was taken it's a tough call to believe it's the  
>> absolute
>> truth.
>>
>> Hey it may well be the absolute moment of truth and good on him for  
>> a great
>> photograph.
>>
>> Although I doubt we'll ever know the truth.
>>
>> ted
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca@leica-users.org
>> [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of  
>> Walt
>> Johnson
>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 1:42 PM
>> To: Leica Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Capa or here we go again
>>
>>
>>
>> Ted
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Ted Grant wrote:
>>
>>
>>> A very interesting discovery indeed. It will start a new series of  
>>> Capa
>>>
>>
>>
>>> books and magazine articles with never seen before material. And  
>>> given
>>>
>> what
>>
>>
>>> I believe has been the best he's known for has been milked to  
>>> death for 50
>>>
>>
>>
>>> years, some new photos will be refreshing.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> I bet die hard Capa fanatics will think this is like finding the  
>>> Holy
>>>
>> Grail!
>>
>>
>>> :-) I suppose it's close considering his position in the photo  
>>> world.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> ted
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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