Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/12/18
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]This one I neophitely liked too: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3208267736974985954 Philippe Op 13-dec-07, om 03:55 heeft Jayanand Govindaraj het volgende geschreven: > Philippe, > The easiest way to get a flavour is through the many reincarnations of > "Shakti", which is a sort of East-West fusion actually, but Zakir > Hussain on > the Tabla, and U.Srinivas on the mandolin are full fledged > certified musical > geniuses. I hear them here often, because John Mclaughlin (Mahavishnu > Orchestra, Miles Davis, etc.etc.) has been on and off here learning > advanced > Carnatic music over the last 2 years or so. They are playing South > Indian > Classical or "Carnatic" style. The other is the North Indian > Classical, or > "Hindustani". An unexpected advantage is that if your ears get used > to this > type of music, then John Coltrane or Ornette Coleman and their ilk > will > make perfect sense. This is an absolutely brilliant concert: > > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6430258844891880760 > > Alto Sax, Carnatic Style: > > http://video.google.com/videoplay? > docid=-2885916593662038132&q=gopalnath&total=10&start=0&num=10&so=0&ty > pe=search&plindex=0 > > Two masters of Hindustani music, playing about Kashmir, Shivkumar > Sharma is > a Kashmiri, and plays a modified folk instrument, the santoor, > which is an > ancestor to the zither: > > http://video.google.com/videoplay? > docid=654251892554096821&q=Shivkumar > +Sharma&total=53&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=3 > > These are, I think the easiest to start with. The high point of Indian > classical music is vocal, but I think it is more of an acquired taste, > remember the usual exposition of a raga would take upward of an > hour at > least: > > http://video.google.com/videoplay? > docid=712964157966482685&q=Jasraj&total=112&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=s > earch&plindex=4 > > > We are actually in the middle of our music season, which is from end > November to early January, and IMHO is the greatest yearly cultural > event in > the world, and its been going on longer than I care to remember. > Take a peep > at the concert schedules to see what I mean.: > > http://www.kutcheribuzz.com/decseason2007/default.asp > > http://www.kutcheribuzz.com/decseason2007/schedules.asp > > Another fusion CD which is fantastic, and a Grammy winner is: > > http://www.amazon.com/Meeting-River-Cooder-V-M-Bhatt/dp/B000005L9Z/ > ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1197513839&sr=1-1 > > If you need more info, get in touch offline > > Cheers > Jayanand > > > On Dec 13, 2007 4:11 AM, Philippe Orlent > <philippe.orlent@pandora.be> wrote: > >> Hi Jayanand, >> Although very rare, there are things that seem to appeal to every >> culture. >> Mostly ancient art, but still. >> Any examples of Indian classical music? I'm really interested to >> discover. >> Philippe >> >> >> Op 12-dec-07, om 03:31 heeft Jayanand Govindaraj het volgende >> geschreven: >> >>> I do not believe that any art is universal - most art is a >>> reflection of the >>> society that produced it. It becomes sort of universal because we >>> become >>> familiar with that culture. Music is similar - how many on this >>> list are in >>> a position to appreciate Indian classical music, even though the >>> general >>> culture is somewhat familiar? >>> Cheers >>> Jayanand >>> >>> >>> On Dec 11, 2007 11:29 PM, Philippe Orlent >>> <philippe.orlent@pandora.be> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I do believe that there is some art that is universal. >>>> And analysing one's feelings post the initial event that caused >>>> them >>>> always reveals alot. For future actions f.i. >>>> Because of my job (influencing mass behaviour) it became an >>>> instinctive reflex. >>>> It all starts with never ceising to ask 'why'? >>>> >>>> Philippe >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Op 11-dec-07, om 01:40 heeft Don Dory het volgende geschreven: >>>> >>>>> Philippe, >>>>> By definition, art is an attempt to reach your soul; bypass the >>>>> analytical >>>>> part of our thinking. Also, art will not be universal: what >>>>> reaches me may >>>>> leave you cold. So, Jackson Pollack does nothing for me but >>>>> Braque >>>>> and >>>>> Matisse sing for me. Likewise I can spend hours looking at >>>>> Moore's >>>>> bronzes >>>>> and learn about myself but many Rodin's just leave a shadow in the >>>>> grass. >>>>> >>>>> So yes, art is only practical as it brings us to places we could >>>>> not get to >>>>> without a little help from someone else's vision. People could >>>>> go on >>>>> without art, it just would be a lot grayer. >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 8, 2007 12:10 PM, Philippe Orlent >>>>> <philippe.orlent@pandora.be> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Following that principle: no rococo, no art nouveau, art deco, no >>>>>> Pollock, no Braque, Matisse, ... >>>>>> I love Bauhaus, but Bauhaus was developed for practical purposes. >>>>>> Art does not have to be practical. >>>>>> Philippe >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Op 8-dec-07, om 17:39 heeft Lottermoser George het volgende >>>>>> geschreven: >>>>>> >>>>>>> For me the term indicates a use of clever or cunning devices or >>>>>>> expedients, for their own sake; above the desire or need to >>>>>>> express >>>>>>> from the heart and soul; or the need to express thoughts or >>>>>>> ideas >>>>>>> which "ring true." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The dictionary suggests "esp. as used to trick or deceive >>>>>>> others," >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't know if I'd go that far in my personal definition of the >>>>>>> term. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Bauhaus principle of "form follows function" stuck with >>>>>>> me as >>>>>>> student and ever since. Ornament for its own sake does not >>>>>>> appeal >>>>>>> to me. For me, artifice stands very close to ornament. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> George Lottermoser >>>>>>> george@imagist.com >>>>>>> www.imagist.com >>>>>>> Picture A Week - www.imagist.com/paw_07 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Dec 7, 2007, at 7:15 PM, Philippe Orlent wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Does artifice mean the same as untrue, then? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>>> information >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>> information >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Don >>>>> don.dory@gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>> information >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>> information >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >