Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/12/13

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Subject: [Leica] Absolutely OT - Indian Music Examples
From: jayanand at (Jayanand Govindaraj)
Date: Thu Dec 13 07:56:51 2007
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What I mean is that because Indian classical is all modal, and your ear is
attuned to it, later Coltrane, Ornette or even someone like Albert Ayler
become quite enjoyable (and probably vice versa). Carnatic music is very,
very structured and technical in its rules for improvisation, which is still
95% of most renderings, while Hindustani is freer, and more melodic. That
said, they are siblings, and have the identical theoretical base - the way
they have evolved over the last few centuries is really a cultural thing.

On Dec 13, 2007 8:51 PM, bob palmieri <> wrote:

> On Dec 13, 2007, at 7:13 AM, Jayanand wrote:
> > An unexpected advantage is that if your ears get used to this
> > type of music, then John Coltrane or Ornette Coleman and their ilk
> > will
> > make perfect sense.
> I feel that a slight tweak to this statement could be helpful to some
> folks.  In my opinion, despite the fact that there is great rigor
> underlying some parts of the harmonic, rhythmic, and/or formal
> structure in some of the late 'Trane or Ornette, it can be good to
> take the position that this music is more about spirit than "sense."
> Sometimes I think listeners feel slighted because they can't make
> "sense" of this kindof thing and get put off of further listening.
> Bob Palmieri
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