Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/10/13
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]At 10:06 PM 10/13/2007, Jim Mooney wrote: > >I just joined a few weeks ago. I've been messing with photography >for quite a few years right now but am currently taking a class in >B&W photography. I have to say that I'm enjoying this more than I >have any other photography I have tried in a while. I don't >currently own a Leica. but I'm planning on an M2 or a II or IIIa in >the near future. For the time being I'm shooting with a Canon EOS >500N and 50/1.8 and HP5. I developed my first rolls last week and >they turned out. This Tuesday I'll be printing for the first time >and I can't wait. I have enjoyed this group and the photos presented >here. I'm not yet shooting with a Leica but I will be soon >hopefully. Thank you to all who share their images here, I truly >enjoy them. May I join Brian in wishing you welcome here? I am currently not doing much photography due to some as-yet undiagnosed problems in my dominant (right) eye (not a problem, I can note, on my Rolleiflex TLR's!), but I am old enough and enough of a snob to regard black and white as art and color as family happy-snaps. That is a most unfair summary, but that is my intestinal feeling. I have been happy with some of my C41 and E6 and K14 shots but I have been happiest with dozens of schwarz-weiss pictures I have made over the years. A rangefinder is dramatically different from a single lens reflex camera. The methods used are similar but, well, a bit different. There is not a thing wrong with Canon EOS gear but, in the end, there is a learning curve with RF gear of which you should be aware and, well, the best way to deal with that is to get a rangefinder and to use it. Many, if not most, on this List will advise you tht the RF only works for film at lens focal lengths between 21mm and 135mm, and that is a good starting point though I often explode this with tele-extenders or by using a Visoflex which effectively turns a Leica rangefinder into a single-lens reflex camera. I would suggest a IIIc as a starting camera. These are widely available, come rather cheap, and are built Dodge-tough. (They CAN be broken: I have seen a smashed one though not one of mine: I routinely bounce-test my cameras, generally on concrete, and my IIIc has always just bounced back and smiled.) A IIIf is another prospect. The earlier cameras have generally become collectibles as has the IIIg, though you can occasionally score a IIIg cheap on eBay and it is a worthy find and highly recommended. My first Leica was a IIIc. I got an APDOO self-timer and a Geiss IIIc Kontakt synch kit (to allow flash) and even did a pro shoot at a wedding with this rig fifteen years or so back, and got rave reviews with the results, especially of the close-ups shot with a 2/85 Jupiter-9. But a basic IIIc is a learning experience which will take you a lifetime to learn. Darkroom work is really good. You really come to learn a lot more about the process of photography when you have to struggle with developing the film (what developer? what temperature? what method of processing? und so weiter) and with printing it -- what areas need dodged, which need burned, and so forth. It is a huge learning curve. Next comes C-41 and RA-4 color negative work and then printing slides. It is all a learning curve. I might set up a very small pro custom dark-room for those who do not wish to futz with this stuff but I suspect that the market isn't there to support this. In any event, welcome aboard, and just ASK, and this list has one thousand members who have 25,000 opinions. Much good comes from the commentary. The off-topic stuff can be neat but the heart of it is photography with Leicas, and you can easily ignore the digital stuff: the arguments over M8 filters and batteries are meaningless to us ham-fisted morons who cannot comprehend digital, but the commentaries on photography in general are worthy and the suggestions on the care and feeding of a Leica are priceless. Ask away and, pray, contribute. Marc msmall@aya.yale.edu Cha robh b?s fir gun ghr?s fir!