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Subject: [Leica] George: 28mm Summicron IR problem
From: len-1 at comcast.net (Leonard Taupier)
Date: Fri Oct 12 14:55:12 2007
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The lens is perfect as long as you don't put an IR filter (deep red)  
on it. I tried color, color desaturated, bw in camera and with other  
filters, it's fine. Nice contrasty images.
On Oct 12, 2007, at 5:39 PM, Steve Barbour wrote:

>
> On Oct 12, 2007, at 2:35 PM, Leonard Taupier wrote:
>
>> Steve,
>>
>> So far that's two for two. (George's and my son's). I had to  
>> borrow my sons as I only have the Elmarit. It would be interesting  
>> to know how the new Elmarit asph fares.
>
>
>
>  how is the effect manifested in bw images?
>
> Steve
>
>
>>
>> Len
>>
>>
>> On Oct 12, 2007, at 5:11 PM, Steve Barbour wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 12, 2007, at 2:10 PM, Leonard Taupier wrote:
>>>
>>>> George, et al.
>>>>
>>>> I've verified a problem with the
>>>
>>> (or my)  ??
>>>
>>>
>>> ....tested one sample, or multiple cron 28's....?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> 28mm Summicron on an M8 and IR filter when trying to take Infra  
>>>> Red photos.
>>>>
>>>> There is a hot spot present in the center of the frame when  
>>>> trying to take IR photos with the above setup. The problem looks  
>>>> like flare, a circle of low contrast in the center of the frame.  
>>>> The problem is most noticeable at the smaller lens openings  
>>>> where the hot spot is clearly defined. As the lens is opened up  
>>>> the hot spot becomes larger and less pronounced but the center  
>>>> area is still lower contrast. I did not see this at f2 and f2.8.  
>>>> Here is a photo taken at f16.
>>>>
>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/LeonardT/Infra_Red/ 
>>>> 28mmSummicronIR.jpg.html>
>>>> or
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/yreo78
>>>>
>>>> I used two M8 cameras for the test. All photos were taken on a  
>>>> tripod with the sun directly behind the camera and shaded by my  
>>>> body. The filter was a Hoya R72. A lens hood was on the lens.  
>>>> The problem showed up with both M8 cameras.
>>>>
>>>> The same test was also performed using the 28mm f2.8 Elmarit  
>>>> (non-asph), 35mm Summicron asph, 24mm Elmarit asph and the 21mm  
>>>> Elmarit asph. Only the 28mm Summicron asph showed the hot spot  
>>>> problem.
>>>>
>>>> The problem does not show up when using a Red R60 filter.
>>>>
>>>> Len
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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