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Subject: [Leica] M3/CL first comparisons
From: phamard at numericable.fr (Philippe Amard)
Date: Wed Sep 26 22:44:30 2007
References: <C9FE9F12-9942-40AC-B2F2-0834217DF34C@droolassicpark.com> <46FB3A4D.60505@nathanfoto.com>

Scooter ? You too? So you're Barcelona ready now LoL
more at  
http://www.frozenlight.eu/fotosevilla/night/content/P400F_17092003_10_large.html

I didn't know these and particularly enjoyed
http://www.frozenlight.eu/fotosevilla/feria/content/P400F_05052004b_22_large.html


Thanks for sharing pictures and information.
Phil...x

Nathan Wajsman wrote:

> Hi Charlie,
>
> The CL is a wonderful camera if you learn to live within its 
> limitations, the most important of which is, as you allude to, the 
> short base of the rangefinder, which makes the longer lenses basically 
> unusable unless you shoot at infinity. So I would not bother with the 
> 135mm Hektor, and not even with the 90mm Elmar C which was meant for 
> the CL but which in my experience rarely focused on target. During 
> 2003 and 2004 I used a couple of CLs with a 40mm Summicron C and a 
> 21mm Color Skopar to take most of the pictures in my Seville gallery:
> http://www.frozenlight.eu/fotosevilla/
>
> There is something nice and liberating about a tiny and light camera 
> bag, and only a limited choice of lenses.
>
> Nathan
>
> Charlie Meyer wrote:
>
>> Well, my new (ok, to me!) Leica CL arrived in the mail today.  For 
>> $225 off RFF, it looked as nice or nicer than those selling for more 
>> on that 'big other auction site'.  I really wanted a user M2 or M3 as 
>> a second body, but the market has gone loony on M2/3 prices.  With 
>> 40mm framelines, it mates up well with my VC 1,4/40 Nokton.  The 
>> small focusing patch is going to take a bit to get used to after 
>> being spoiled with the M3 finder.  It's half the age of my M3, and 
>> there's @#$%&! PLASTIC (ok, just a bit) inside), but there's still a 
>> nice heft to it.  At less than half what 50 year old M2/3s are 
>> fetching on that 'other big auction site', I can live with an 
>> internal meter that's off and still know I will be financing part of 
>> Sherry's retirement account.  My Leicas make my LunaPro F look as 
>> unobtrusive as a boom box at a wake, but it is accurate. It'll be a 
>> cold day in hell when 9v batteries are obsolete and unobtainable.
>>
>> I guess it really isn't fair to compare the cl with the Ms.  I'm 
>> starting a roll in the morning to see if I can adjust to a less 
>> sensitive and precise rangefinder.  For the money, I certainly cannot 
>> bitch.
>>
>> Rounding out the lens department of the bag is a 135 Hektor that I 
>> picked up from the post office this morning.  Hell, they're cheap 
>> enough ($83 shipped), but the damn 12575 hood was a bear to find at a 
>> price less than the damn lens.  The Hektor is stiffer focusing, but a 
>> CLA should rectify that.  I bought a nice 12575 hood for the Elmar 
>> and Hektor last night for less than $30.  Everything now fits comfy 
>> in a Domke F-803 bag. Big enough to carry the kit...small enough to 
>> keep the G.A.S. in check (yeah, right).
>>
>> Anyone have pointers about using a CL? I figure sticking to shorter 
>> lenses and stopping down should be a first step.
>>
>> I'm still hoping just to luck out at some estate sale for another 
>> M2/3.  I was lucky the first time.
>>
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>>
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In reply to: Message from charlie at droolassicpark.com (Charlie Meyer) ([Leica] M3/CL first comparisons)
Message from nathan at nathanfoto.com (Nathan Wajsman) ([Leica] M3/CL first comparisons)