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Subject: [Leica] R lens comparison
From: phamard at numericable.fr (Philippe Amard)
Date: Mon Sep 24 06:17:21 2007
References: <C31CB007.6C0F7%mark@rabinergroup.com> <46F7A905.8090500@suddenlink.net> <46F7B4DE.6030805@numericable.fr> <46F7B838.1030308@suddenlink.net>

Macro Elmarit 60 - cheap on fleebay nowadays - no 1/1 ring here, but a 
x2 crop factor on the L1 helps staying at bay.
I don't have the 100 - DK if it would be any better - speed might then 
become an issue.
Thanks for viewing.
Phil...x

A reminder : David and Doug the Birdman shoot wonderful wildlife 
photographs with their R Telyts.


Jack Maddox wrote:

> Philippe,
>
> I remember this shot from its original post. It is very nice. What 
> lens was used for this one?
>
> Jack
>
> Philippe Amard wrote:
>
>> Jack,
>>
>> R glass(es) is not always as bad as its reputation will have it to be 
>> - it  allows you to shoot things Ms won't - watch THIS 
>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/d/84335-1/PAW-20-For-Rose.jpg> for 
>> instance, and if you wait long enough for all the pixels to download, 
>> you'll be able to judge for yourself. Different uses require 
>> different tools. :-)
>>
>> Yours
>> Phil...x
>>
>>
>> Jack Maddox wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks to all (Mark, Hoppy, Chris,Gene } for your responses to the R 
>>> lens question. I am an avid eBay watcher. It seems to me that R 
>>> lenses  lag behind rangefinder lenses in price. I was trying  to 
>>> ascertain  if this was because of image  quality or just plain  
>>> supply and demand issues.I have delayed purchasing Erwins compendium 
>>> long enough. I intend to obtain and read it.Thanks for bringing it 
>>> to my attention again.
>>>
>>> Jack
>>>
>>> Mark Rabiner wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Jack, I recommend two books for you.
>>>>> Erwin Puts Leica Lens Compendium is an excellent source of 
>>>>> information. For
>>>>> Leica fans, I think definitely worth owning the hard
>>>>> copy. Erwin's site reports that there may be a new book in the 
>>>>> future. The
>>>>> current one was published by Hove, no longer in business,
>>>>> but I think the book is still commonly available. You can download 
>>>>> the most
>>>>> current version of the book (sans pictures) from Erwin's
>>>>> site with a donation requested. http://www.imx.nl/photo/site_map.html
>>>>> The smaller "Leica Pocket Book" also from Hove has good 
>>>>> information too,
>>>>> including the MTF diagrams. I think that the 7th edition
>>>>> from 2004 is the latest. One point that Erwin makes is that a 
>>>>> number of more
>>>>> modern M lenses share common design and performance
>>>>> attributes with their R cousins. Amongst the macros and telephotos 
>>>>> for the R,
>>>>> some designs are apparently unsurpassed by any other
>>>>> optics. People like Doug Herr and other owners and users of these 
>>>>> here on this
>>>>> list will be able to attest to that, I think.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Hoppy
>>>>>
>>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ewins book reads better than a 25 cent paperback thriller. You cant 
>>>> put it
>>>> down.
>>>> Shame he doesn't make any money on it I don't think when you buy one.
>>>> The publishing company went under and its a mess so I read.
>>>>
>>>> Hope it gets picked up again and updated.
>>>> So the very latest stuff is in there. Like the new tri Elmar.
>>>> Love to hear about what he'd say about that.
>>>>
>>>> He raves about the old tri Elmar to an extent which is one of the 
>>>> few things
>>>> I don't see eye to eye with in the book. Though I've never used 
>>>> one. It kind
>>>> of leaves me cold. A huge f4 trying to be three lenses.
>>>> I think of it as a "try Elmar".
>>>>
>>>> But a 16
>>>> 18 &
>>>> 21!
>>>>
>>>> That's two focal lengths Leica had not made yet.
>>>> And an ultra wide not quite zoom but varifocal lens might be not 
>>>> such an
>>>> incorrect term.
>>>>
>>>> Or 21-24-28
>>>>
>>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>>> rabinergroup.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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