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Subject: [Leica] 6 weeks with an M8 in Iran
From: grduprey at mchsi.com (grduprey@mchsi.com)
Date: Mon Sep 10 20:47:53 2007

Mark,

Hi, I guess today has not been my day, as I have been in a BLACK MOOD all 
day.  Don't know why, probably just got out of bed on the wrong side.  ;-)  
Yes the M8 is a great camera, I have one and love it myself.  I read the 
article some months ago, and it does indeed give a good report on it.  But 
then since it was given to him to use there is always the thought of just 
how much sugar coating he did.  However, since I have had mine I have been 
very satisfied with my purchase and no problems what so ever, and the 
firmware upgrades have indeed fixed many early bugs.

Don't know if it will prove to be a solid working tool, or a rich man's toy 
either.  However the evidence so far does indeed point to the M8 being a 
real working tool.  I know of at least one guy out there who is using it for 
wedding photography full time, I'm sure there are PJ's out there using it 
also.  Certainly Tina, Ted and others here on the LUGare good examples of 
pro's using them regularly.

Leica's next hurdle to get over, is to get caught up with demand on the M8 
and lenses.  They seem to have really been caught off guard in this respect, 
and it has hurt them in the customer service department.  Maybe they should 
rehire some or all of the people they laid off a few years ago.  They need 
to do this and be ready to handle demand increases better, Before the next 
camera (R-10?) intro so this kind of thing does not happen again.

Gene

-------------- Original message from Mark Rabiner <mark@rabinergroup.com>: 
-------------- 


> > Mark, 
> > 
> > This is a pretty old article, why bring it up now? Most certainly his 
> > review 
> > conclusion is influenced by the loan of the camera. I don't think anyone 
> > would not notice this. Who cares, especially since the camera has been 
> > out 
> > for almost a year and we now have actual results using the camera. 
> > 
> > Gene 
> > 
> > 
> 
> Well on this list a dozen or less that I know about have made the plunge 
> and 
> bought it. We here impressive stuff about it from them. 
> But many wait in the wings. Me for instance. 
> An article like this can be the straw that breaks the camels back in 
> influencing many peoples such decisions on the issue. 
> 
> In other words 
> Is this a viable PJ camera which continues the Leica tradition... 
> Or just a toy for millionaires? 
> 
> An article like does a good job in proving the former. 
> I know its not the first we've heard of an M8 being in the trenches and 
> surviving. But this to me is the most pervasive and persuasive.. 
> What makes it all the more credible to me is the part where he has some 
> minor trouble with it. The meter goes out for a day. And works through it. 
> This guy is not a paid off guy. They are not going to give it too him 
> afterward. 
> The camera just works. 
> It can be counted on as much as any other. 
> 
> I'd like to believe the part about the new firmware being a fix to all the 
> color problems like he says but I sense not quite. 
> 
> I'm really not convinced that if I had a spare five grand which I don't 
> I'd 
> want to spend it on an M8 and not a D3. 
> 
> This article makes me take the m8 much more seriously than I did... 
> Last week. 
> 
> When the D3 was introduced. ...or the week before. 
> Neither week did I have 5 grand in my wallet or in the inside pocket of my 
> favorite sports jacket. 
> 
> 
> The D3 by the way for those like myself who hate acronym spouters is the 
> just introduced Nikon five grand full frame. 
> Which lights up and says kiss me baby. In French. 
> Then stays on as you click away. 
> 
> Mark William Rabiner 
> Harlem, NY 
> 
> rabinergroup.com 
> 
> 
> 
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