Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/08/30

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Subject: [Leica] Re: LUG Digest, Vol 35, Issue 375
From: grduprey at mchsi.com (grduprey@mchsi.com)
Date: Thu Aug 30 20:01:23 2007

Larry,

Why would you have to purchase a new computer, printer etc?  I still use the 
printer, computer etc. that i've had for 3 years, still works just fine with 
my M8.  I do want a new iMac laptop, but not because I bought the M8, I 
wanted that before my M8 came along.

As to living near the water, and salt spray, that is an issue with any 
camera, even so I always used my R and earlier M cameras at the ocean etc.  
That is just a self maintenance problem, for anyone using a camera.

Gene

-------------- Original message from Lawrence Zeitlin 
<lrzeitlin@optonline.net>: -------------- 


> 
> On Aug 30, 2007, at 11:51 AM, George wrote: 
> 
> > Your second career "travel writer/photographer" would certainly allow 
> > you to "depreciate" your equipment; including a complete write off in 
> > the year that you purchase it; assuming that you file a schedule C as 
> > a self employed "writer/photographer." 
> > 
> > Also, I'm very curious as to how many of the off list nay sayers have 
> > owned and used the M8. 
> 
> I try to deduct all my expenses but the IRS says that I have to make 
> money three years out of every five - otherwise photography is a 
> hobby. Springing for an M8 would kill my profits for this year. And, 
> of course I would need a better computer, Photoshop CS3 or Lightroom, 
> a much better ink jet printer, etc., etc. Since Moore's Law predicts 
> that the price of digital electronic declines by half every 18 
> months, maybe I'll wait until next year. Or perhaps I'll buy a used 
> M8 exchanged for an M8.1 or M9. At a price of $2000 or less I could 
> learn to live with the camera's peculiarities. 
> 
> Most of my photography is done on or near salt water. One of the 
> reasons for my reluctance to take Leicas aboard a boat is the high 
> probability of damage from salt spray. I have done enough actual 
> Leica repair (mostly on LTMs) to know that, whatever their other 
> sterling qualities, Leicas are not internally corrosion resistant. 
> Solms is not a coastal city and Oskar Barnack was a mountain hiker, 
> not a sailor, so water sealing seems to be one of the things Leica 
> left out. The Olympus camera line has good water sealing, and for 
> really bad conditions I use an old Nikonos II. Even if I fall 
> overboard, the camera will survive. 
> 
> But your second point is most interesting. I havn't seen any hard 
> statistics about the failure rate of M8s, or for that matter, the 
> percentage of Leica owners that have purchased them. Until we get a 
> handle on the actual failure rate, any comments pro or con are mere 
> speculation. Combing through back postings of the LUG gives the 
> impression that half of all references to the M8 are praises, the 
> other half are complaints. Or maybe it is the just the same three or 
> four users lauding the camera and another three or four bitching 
> about it. Does anyone have any definitive information from Leica 
> about the number of cameras that had to be returned, replaced, or 
> repaired as a percentage of total sales? Any breakdown of failure 
> modes? Bad shutters, logic board glitches, sensor problems, broken 
> cases, etc?. A couple of the nay sayers were very specific aboout 
> problems with their M8s - as for some of the others, I can't say. 
> 
> Peace, 
> 
> Larry Z 
> 
> 
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