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Subject: [Leica] I can't print my petunias!!
From: rsphotoimages at comcast.net (Bob Shaw)
Date: Mon Aug 20 16:20:13 2007
References: <C2EF5AF3.65A87%mark@rabinergroup.com>

Hey, Peter;

I like it.

What camera, lens, aperture, speed?  Film or digital?

Bob


On Aug 20, 2007, at 11:51, Mark Rabiner wrote:

> I wrote:
>> I just could not believe these petunias.  Even in the shade, they  
>> seemed
>> to be florescent.
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/album170/ 
> L1001127UVPetunias.jpg.html>
>
> My printer couldn't believe the colors, either.  I just tried to print  
> the
> above picture, and the colors came out very different from the
> screen.  Instead of the florescent magenta-purple, I get very red
> flowers.  Red like a Poinsettia at Christmas.  The only place a few  
> petals
> look purple is on the very left, at the top right, where the flowers  
> are a
> little faded or shaded.  But not jaded.
>
> Have I encountered the dreaded out of gamut conundrum? Did the ghost  
> of Dr.
> Fourrier, immortalized in my print driver, take a look at the RGB  
> numbers
> and refuse to transform?  "No way," he'd say. I'd overflow my
> register.  I'd divide by zero and disappear into a Black Hole.  And my  
> cat
> would die!"
>
> I had the same results on two different printers, an R200 and an
> R1800.  The R1800 did a little better, but had basically the same
> problem.  I printed from a 16-bit TIFF. I generally use sRGB color  
> space
> for workflow simplicity.  Might I have a better chance of getting the
> colors right if I used Adobe RGB? Or if I tweaked the rendering  
> intent?  Or
> are the printers just not capable of reproducing this color?  Is this a
> case of The Effect of Out of Gamut Rays On Man-In-The-Moon Purple  
> Petunias?
>
> Seriously, this is not a huge deal, but I'm curious what to do about
> it.  This is only the second time I've encountered a color that totally
> weirded out my printer.
>
> --Peter
>
>



The proper way to print petunias.
Which glow.

I think you'd need to go in there again with a special spot color.
Pantone Petunia Purple 107B.
Down spot down!!

But you're need proper Registration marks.
So bring your passport protection plan.

You must shake the Pantone Petunia Purple cartridge clockwise in the
vertical dimension.
Wearing asbestos lead gloves. And don't get it in your eyes.

Every time I'd put on the asbestos lead gloves my German Shepard used  
to go
nuts. Thought I wanted to play with him. Rough.

Rough Rough! He'd say.

The covers of the American Vogues in the 80s were done by Avedon most  
of the
time Brook Shields when she was 13 and he'd shoot it with the 105mm uv  
Zeiss
planar lens for the Hasselblad you can rent both I'm sure. I think and
they'd Spotone it I think with Pantone Petunia Purple 1072B.

Same with the editorial of her inside. It was very effective.
They did this effect a half dozen times. For real.
Maybe they made one for Rollei too.
If you gave them a bottle of Jack Daniels.

And you need a blacklight.
And some posters.

I thought I was afraid Now I'm alone. (to the effect)
War is not healthy for children and other living things.
And so on.


Mark William Rabiner
Harlem, NY

rabinergroup.com



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