[Leica] Armed *White* America?

[grduprey at mchsi.com (grduprey@mchsi.com)]

Actually Ted is right on target (Sorry).

-------------- Original message from "Jayanand Govindaraj" 
<jayanand@gmail.com>: -------------- 


> Ted, 
> I am afraid you are the one talking tripe on this one. Richard has every 
> legitimate right to ask the question he did. 
> Cheers 
> Jayanand 
> 
> On 8/9/07, Ted Grant wrote: 
> > 
> > Richard offered: 
> > 
> > Subject: [Leica] Armed *White* America? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >>>>>As much as I love Kyle's stuff and writing, I won't be buying the 
> > 
> > book. No need to explain or defend etc. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > For those with the book though, or Kyle our man if you are not too 
> > 
> > busy signing autographs, I note that the photo excerpts have one 
> > 
> > African American and one woman that appears to be Asian descended. 
> > 
> > Armed White America? What is the spread in the book like?<<<<, 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Richard for crying out loud! 
> > 
> > Do you know how stupid this is? Dumb ass stupid, that's what!! 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Simply because Kyle didn't start out to shoot a book representing every 
> > colour in the rainbow nor ethnic cross section!! Get real! When a book 
> > idea 
> > like this is born it's not to represent all the colours in the rainbow, 
> > but 
> > about people who volunteer their services to be photographed for a 
> > potential 
> > book about guns and folks who own them! 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > This kind of tripe isn't any different than when Sandy Carter and I had 
> > completed our book about women in medicine and the shooting was finished 
> > after nearly a year and a half criss crossing North America in many 
> > hospitals and medical centres. We received this same kind of bull shit 
> > from 
> > a writer who was asked to work on the book with us. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > As soon as she brought up.... "where are the handi-capped doctors and 
> > nurses, there isn't enough colour representation, where are the Asians 
> > etc 
> > etc every damn BS line one could possibly imagine regarding all the PC 
> > nonsense. Guess what? She was history instantaneously! Simply because 
> > there's real life in the world and the way some folks would like to have 
> > it! 
> > However, never shall the twain meet as sorry as I am to write that at 
> > the 
> > moment! Maybe after 10 life times of 10 life times of the next 10 
> > generations of appreciating each others colour in the rainbow simply 
> > because 
> > we all give something to this world as messed up as it is! 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Damn Richard and you aren't helping one iota with your silly tripe! 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Right now don't anybody jump in with I'm a bigot! Simply because I've 
> > always 
> > been a champion for women to be equally treated and paid as men, colour 
> > was 
> > never a thing in my life because of the way I was brought up that we are 
> > as 
> > human beings all equal! 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > How many of you have ever thought about relating to our human race in 
> > this 
> > fashion? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Take every colour there is in our rainbow and each one makes a tiny cut 
> > in 
> > a 
> > finger! SURPISE WE ALL BLEED THE SAME COLOUR! Damn I bet not too many 
> > ever 
> > thought of it in that equaling fashion! So quite frankly that's how I 
> > was 
> > brought up to respect every other human being of different colour or 
> > religion or whatever they wanted to be! The colour of their blood! 
> > 
> > Skin was just the cover colour, not the book inside! 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > So when I read someone brings up this drivel about race-colour whatever 
> > Richard is alluding to, I lose it! Yep the problem is real I don't deny 
> > that, but what screws it up is when some one brings it up in such a 
> > stupid 
> > manner! It has no relation in this book as first published! 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Certainly where every colour, religion, size, male, female or whatever 
> > one 
> > wishes to call themselves, had the opportunity to VOLUNTEER to be in 
> > Kyle's 
> > book! Absolutely no discrimination whatsoever! Merely in the minds of 
> > the 
> > retarded! 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Similarly so in our book, "Women in Medicine." Sandy Carter and I didn't 
> > go 
> > around looking for black, coloured, white whatever doctors and nurses 
> > came 
> > in. Simply because we had all kinds of them doing the job of looking 
> > after 
> > all the folks who required medical attention regards of rainbow colour 
> > and 
> > we had them all in our coverage where ever they were giving their care 
> > to 
> > others!! Regardless of whatever or whomever! 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Nor did we look for ... "are you a handi-capped person medical 
> > professional?" I will say the only single item we watched for was a, are 
> > you 
> > ready? "A PREGNANT DOCTOR OR NURSE WHO WAS SHOWING SHE WAS!" That was 
> > it! 
> > :-) Yes and there is one in the book! :-) 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > As a matter of fact our wonderful book concept was originally suggested 
> > by 
> > one of the most understanding and professional women doctors or any 
> > doctor, 
> > male or female I've ever had the honour and privilege of knowing. And 
> > Richard if you were astute enough you might buy our book and read this 
> > doctor's forward! And be surprised! 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > A lady of human class beyond real life, as wonderful as an angel could 
> > be. 
> > She just happened to be the Director of Nuclear Cardiology in a big 
> > hospital 
> > with a wonderful staff of many colours. And she was black! 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thank you. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > What I really don't understand is .... 
> > 
> > "WHAT THE HELL DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH LEICA PHOTOGRAPHY?" And Richard 
> > why 
> > did you bring it up? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Apart from the fact I'm bagged after being in front of TV cameras all 
> > day 
> > on 
> > the final shoot for the BRAVO TV programme to be released in October 
> > about 
> > the old guy! :-) Oh yeah and flaunting the Leica M8 in every scene! :-) 
> > Awesome! ;-) But dang it sure was and has been fun! :-) 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ted 
> > 
> > 
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