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Subject: [Leica] Just wondering...
From: philippe.orlent at pandora.be (Philippe Orlent)
Date: Sun Jun 10 13:15:58 2007
References: <C2919E14.204F7%bd@bdcolenphoto.com>

So? This is something you suddenly discovered all by yourself?
I didn't realize that this list was the epicentre of permanent change  
and evolution concerning photographic issues.

Now about the lecture, BTW another word that you so eloquently -and  
ofcourse without any underlying motiv- chose.
The reason why I finally, after a number of very predictable former  
posts cc. this subject, reacted, was the following:
Not that you're unwelcome (who am I to even think that), but these so  
condescending and innecessary moments really make me mad.
Especially since I really haven't seen any proof of any reason for  
that kind of behaviour.

If you don't realize that you act this way, you have some work to do.
If you do realize it, you even have more work to do.

It's not necessary, B.D.
Esp. not for a man with your intellectual background.

Philippe




Op 10-jun-07, om 18:24 heeft B. D. Colen het volgende geschreven:

> So I'll ignore the pleasant lecture, Philippe, and respond to the  
> comment
> about the Supermarket Muzak. Actually, I agree with you - sort of. I
> actually like the music - Going Home, Mark Knopfler's theme from  
> the movie
> local hero - but to each their own. I can generally do without  
> sound, but
> bridal couples seem to like it - and it's up there for them and their
> friends, not for me.
>
> Actually, I will respond to the first part - the lecture. I did not  
> say that
> anyone's crap - what I did say is that someone the subjects, and  
> responses
> to them, are always the same. If you don't believe me, try turning  
> off your
> LUG mail for a few weeks, or better yet, a month, then turn it back  
> on and
> look at the first 10, 20, 100 posts to come through. It is really eye
> opening.
>
>
> On 6/10/07 11:53 AM, "Philippe Orlent" <philippe.orlent@pandora.be>  
> wrote:
>
>> Now th?t's a Groundhog Day feeling for me.
>> This is a so very typical and reoccuring situation, every time again:
>>
>> A somewhat blunt B.D. statement suggesting that we're all crap and
>> that can only lead to one reaction: and how are you doing, dude?
>> Followed by a number of fine photographs to prove that you are doing
>> very well. Sometimes accompanied with an Oly endorsement.
>> Mostly it's preceded by an (easily decryptable and predictable)
>> enigmatic phrase that has to prove that you are a man of the world
>> but that also suggests/insinuates the contrary of those that react to
>> it.
>> It's your typical recipe, B.D. A teaching trick. Very Jesuit, too.
>> But we're not your pupils, are we?
>> We know you're a good photographer. We know you make good
>> photographs. We appreciate them every time again. Sometimes we learn
>> something from them. That's all good.
>> But please leave this self-assuring foreplays out. You don't need
>> that. And neither do we: we're all grown ups here.
>>
>> Thanks for showing,
>> Philippe
>>
>> BTW: Although I liked the slide show I didn't like the music at all:
>> so very clich? and pass?. A warp back in time into the era of
>> supermarket muzak. Surely you can do better than that?
>>
>>
>> Op 10-jun-07, om 16:34 heeft B. D. Colen het volgende geschreven:
>>
>>> To answer a number of questions about what's with me and what have
>>> I been up
>>> to -
>>>  - My health is fine, thanks;
>>>  - I'm very busy in my day job - some of you may have noticed a
>>> flood of
>>> recent stories about some exciting stem cell research ;-)
>>> - I've been busy shooting -
>>>
>>> Among other recent jobs:
>>>
>>> Here's a slide show with sound of two days of wedding prep and
>>> wedding at
>>> the Baltimore zoo -
>>>
>>> www.bdcolenphoto.com/aliceandtriften
>>>
>>> Here's a pdf of a complete book shot at the Broad Institute of the
>>> celebration of Eric Lander's - he of the human genome project - 50th
>>> birthday and the 20th anniversary of his lab -
>>>
>>> www.bdcolenphoto.com/eric@50.pdf
>>>
>>> And here's book 2 of a 2 book shoot I did of a weekend celebration
>>> of the
>>> life of the deceased wife of a Detroit auto exec. The first volume
>>> was the
>>> gathering of family and friends the day before; this volume
>>> captures the
>>> event itself, held at Symphony Hall in Detroit.
>>>
>>> www.bdcolenphoto.com/millerbook2.pdf
>>>
>>> Other than that I just finished teaching my documentary photo class
>>> at MIT,
>>> and next month will be teaching my Maine Photographic Workshop
>>> class. Next
>>> spring I'll be teaching my doc photo class at both MIT and the  
>>> Harvard
>>> Extension School.
>>>
>>> So that's what I've been up to. Oh, right, and I am still shooting
>>> with the
>>> Olympus E1, E330, and occasionally the E500. And to echo the
>>> comments of
>>> several of you, the 7-14 f4 is a terrific lens; it's virtually
>>> welded to my
>>> e330 body - the combination of the super wide angle and the flip
>>> out - and
>>> therefore waist-level  - viewing screen is terrific.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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