Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/05/12
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Thanks to Hoppy, Len, Philippe (Amard), Walt, Jayanand, Steve (Unsworth), and Tom Fenwick who has gived me the idea to look at the Previous Mode, and marking on the Arrow to NORMAL, you can select a negative to scan. With this solution I have no intention to use Vuescan or Silverfast, neither to buy a Nikon Coolscanner V, why?, I'm very happy with the results on my Epson flatbead and I'm not sure that results will be improved, I obtain a scale of B&W tones very pleasant for me. The only reason to go to a such film scanner could be to scann slides, with the Epson I'm not very happy, but as you know I do very few color slides. Thanks again to all for your kind advices and help!!! Saludos cordiales Luis -----Mensaje original----- De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En nombre de G Hopkinson Enviado el: s?bado, 12 de mayo de 2007 0:44 Para: 'Leica Users Group' Asunto: RE: [Leica] Scanning HELP OK well, when you do your preview scan, look at the levels and adjust the exposure if clipped. For a dense neg you may have to increase the exposure. Put your crop box within the image (no border or the exposure is influenced by the border area) Size is a different thing. If scanning to make prints then I suggest using the highest actual dpi your scanner can do. Just for web it can be smaller and faster of course. I'll catch you off-list if you like. Cheers Hoppy -----Original Message----- Subject: RE: [Leica] Scanning HELP Hi Hoppy, First at all thanks for your answer, but my problem is not if I should use and how Vuescan or Silvedrfast, my problem starts only when I have a dark negative and the Epson don't keep the original size, if I don't find a solution, on such cases is when I should use Vuescan or Silverfast, but I don't like how they work, I prefer my Epson, and on this aspect I'm very surprised too. Saludos cordiales Luis -----Mensaje original----- De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En nombre de G Hopkinson Enviado el: s?bado, 12 de mayo de 2007 0:22 Para: 'Leica Users Group' Asunto: RE: [Leica] Scanning HELP Luis. The differences may be what settings you use with each program. I agree that you have captured an excellent tonal range in the first pic. I only tried Silverfast briefly as mine (that came with an Epson scanner) had some driver issue that crashed my computer when I tried it. Vuescan should be faster than the Epson software. Flatbeds are not very fast, of course. I'll send you some settings to try. (Daniel's setting for scanning his lovely Rollei stuff!) I haven't had much success in using the bw film presets in Vuescan. Two suggestions, don't try to alter the tonal range when you scan. But be sure that no tones are being clipped. If you see clipping you can then adjust the exposure in the scan. As long as you capture everything you then can adjust better with levels and curves in Photoshop. Try scanning the bw as a colour slide, then reversing the image in Photoshop. (suggested by my fine art printing guy here). I've found that this gave me better tonal range on a contrasty neg than scanning as a bw. Cheers Hoppy -----Original Message----- Subject: [Leica] Scanning HELP Hi all, I need some help and advices about what can I do with my scanning problem. First point: I'm scanning with a EPSON 3170, and I'm absolutely fully satisfied and happy with the results, IMO I obtain better detail and tones than scanning with Silverfast (too contrasty/hard), or Vuescan (Too soft/smooth, loss of details, but better on the shadows). Please compare these three pictures (For Vuescan and Silverfast I've used the trial versions): This one was scanned with the Epson 3170 software, for me is perfect: http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Scann-Test/01-Epson_w.jpg.html This one with Silverfast, contrast is more hard/strong, certain loss of details http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Scann-Test/01-Siverfast3_w.jpg.html This one with Vuescan, more soft, more shadows details, please see an important loss of details on the left corner http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Scann-Test/01-vuescan_w.jpg.html Up to here, your question could be, what are you asking for?. HERE IS THE ORIGIN OF THE PROBLEM: when I scann with the Epson very dark negatives the resulting image is: http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Scann-Test/08-Epson_w.jpg.html usually with an important loss of parts of the image, for this reason I've started the tests with Vuescan and Silverfast: With Silverfast http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Scann-Test/08-Silverfast2w.jpg.html With Vuescan http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Scann-Test/08-vuescan_w.jpg.html As you can appreciate Vuescan produce more detail on the shadows, but the overall image quality I like is the one with the EPSON, and here is my question: Could somebody tell me what can I do to avoid this problem with the Epson? Beside this, IMO is more friendly work with Silverfast tahn Vuescan, on this one every change you do it refresh and takes an enormous time!, on the other hand Silverfast has a wide range of films type to scann, you can better define the resolution..., I like more the Silverfast software, but not the final image. Your comments and help will be really appreciated, Thanks in advance Luis _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information