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Subject: [Leica] Scanning HELP
From: len-1 at comcast.net (Leonard Taupier)
Date: Fri May 11 16:38:38 2007
References: <002401c7940f$24b3c550$2101a8c0@luispersonal> <F0DDA07D-D1C9-4155-BF99-F8CF489CD391@comcast.net> <003701c79423$b7dcb710$2101a8c0@luispersonal>

OK,

Now I understand the problem. Have you checked for an upgrade to your  
scanning program from Epson?

Len


On May 11, 2007, at 7:25 PM, Luis Ripoll wrote:

> Hi Len,
>
> I don't understand the loss of quality on Vuescan and Silverfast, but
> doesn't matter, my original problem, as showoed pn picture #08 on  
> Epson is
> that the scanner crop automatically the dark areas of the negative,  
> giving
> you an extrange form, even sometimes it pick part of the following  
> picture.
> I think that in Epson should exist a tool like a marcc to define  
> the area
> you want to work, and don't have finfd it...
>
> Thanks for your comments
> Luis
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En  
> nombre de
> Leonard Taupier
> Enviado el: s?bado, 12 de mayo de 2007 0:55
> Para: Leica Users Group
> Asunto: Re: [Leica] Scanning HELP
>
> Hi Luis,
>
> No question the Epson software is giving you the best image quality.
> In photo #1 the view on my monitor is the same as yours. I am  
> surprised at
> the loss of detail with Vuescan and Silverfast.
>
> I can see your problem, especially since a lot of your photos have  
> deep
> shadows. If it were me I would stay with the Epson software and try  
> to bring
> up the detail in the shadows with Photoshop. Have you tried to  
> adjust the
> image using the Shadow/Highlight? It looks like you would not have  
> to make a
> big adjustment and you maintain the detail in the Epson. Give it a  
> try. I'll
> try your photo on my computer as well.
>
> Regards,
> Len
>
>
> On May 11, 2007, at 4:58 PM, Luis Ripoll wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I need some help and advices about what can I do with my scanning
>> problem.
>>
>> First point: I'm scanning with a EPSON 3170, and I'm absolutely fully
>> satisfied and happy with the results, IMO I obtain better detail and
>> tones than scanning with Silverfast (too contrasty/hard), or Vuescan
>> (Too soft/smooth, loss of details, but better on the shadows). Please
>> compare these three pictures (For Vuescan and Silverfast I've used  
>> the
>> trial
>> versions):
>>
>> This one was scanned with the Epson 3170 software, for me is perfect:
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Scann-Test/01- 
>> Epson_w.jpg.html
>>
>> This one with Silverfast, contrast is more hard/strong, certain loss
>> of details
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Scann-Test/01-
>> Siverfast3_w.jpg.html
>>
>> This one with Vuescan, more soft, more shadows details, please see an
>> important loss of details on the left corner
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Scann-Test/01-
>> vuescan_w.jpg.html
>>
>>
>> Up to here, your question could be, what are you asking for?.
>>
>> HERE IS THE ORIGIN OF THE PROBLEM: when I scann with the Epson very
>> dark negatives the resulting image is:
>>
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Scann-Test/08- 
>> Epson_w.jpg.html
>>
>> usually with an important loss of parts of the image, for this reason
>> I've started the tests with Vuescan and Silverfast:
>>
>> With Silverfast
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Scann-Test/08-
>> Silverfast2w.jpg.html
>>
>> With Vuescan
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Scann-Test/08-
>> vuescan_w.jpg.html
>>
>> As you can appreciate Vuescan produce more detail on the shadows, but
>> the overall image quality I like is the one with the EPSON, and here
>> is my
>> question:
>>
>> Could somebody tell me what can I do to avoid this problem with the
>> Epson?
>>
>> Beside this, IMO is more friendly work with Silverfast tahn Vuescan,
>> on this one every change you do it refresh and takes an enormous
>> time!, on the other hand Silverfast has a wide range of films type to
>> scann, you can better define the resolution..., I like more the
>> Silverfast software, but not the final image.
>>
>>
>> Your comments and help will be really appreciated,
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>> Luis
>>
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