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Subject: [Leica] IMG: Ira's PAW - Week 18 - Woody Woodpecker
From: jeffmatsler at amaonline.com (Jeff Matsler)
Date: Thu May 10 06:55:46 2007
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That would have been my recommendation as well.  That's how I shoot with the 
D2H for sports.  Once you get good at it, it becomes second nature to shoot 
an 80-200mm at f/2.8 or f/4 and get faces in focus.

Jeff M

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Dernie" <Frank.Dernie@btinternet.com>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: Ira's PAW - Week 18 - Woody Woodpecker


> Hi Doug,
> that is what I have been doing. It was a bit mischievous of me to ask 
> because I know that if there was a solution it would have circulated  by 
> now. For a long time I thought I must be the only person to think 
> autofocus was crap for fast/long lenses, photography magazines test 
> autofocus ad nauseam, I only use autofocus for snapshots with small 
> apertures. It isn't good enough on any of the cameras I have tried, 
> Canons D30, 10D, 5D and 1Ds Mk2, nor a Nikon D200 if using a fast  prime 
> lens. You never get focus on eyes automatically and on flying  birds an in 
> focus wing with soft head is the best to hope for. Using  just the centre 
> point, focus lock and re-framing works a bit like an  M leica though!
> Frank
>
>
> On 10 May, 2007, at 14:22, Doug Herr wrote:
>
>> There is a very detailed answer waiting to come out of my keyboard  if 
>> only I could type fast enough before running off to catch the  bus to 
>> work.  Sort answer: turn the AF off.  More this evening (and  thanks for 
>> the free plug, Hoppy!)
>>
>> Doug Herr
>> Birdman of Sacramento
>> http://www.widlightphoto.com
>>
>> On May 10, 2007, at 1:09 AM, Frank Dernie wrote:
>>
>>> You have the same problem I do if I use autofocus. The tree is in  focus 
>>> and the bird not quite. It would have been all the more  noticeable with 
>>> a wider aperture. I find the autofocus point  choice of the cameras I 
>>> have used only to be OK for slow zooms  where the depth of field covers 
>>> a multitude of errors. I find that  in order to get the part of my 
>>> subject in focus that -I- choose I  need to define the focus point and 
>>> focus lock or use manual focus.  The motor racing pros I know usually do 
>>> not use autofocus either  for the same reason. Has anybody on the list 
>>> found a trick for  using autofocus effectively for long and/or fast 
>>> lenses?
>>> Frank
>>>
>>> On 10 May, 2007, at 06:49, ISILVERMN@aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> So it's not really Woody W., but rather Nuttall's Woodpecker,   who has 
>>>> been
>>>> announcing his presence outside our front window morning and night:
>>>> _http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Ira+Silverman/2007+PAW/2007+PAW 
>>>> +18.jpg.html_
>>>>
>>>> (http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Ira+Silverman/2007+PAW/2007+PAW 
>>>> +18.jpg.html)
>>>>
>>>> Same fellow, this time at work:
>>>> _http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Ira+Silverman/2007+PAW/2007+PAW 
>>>> +18A.jpg.html
>>>> _
>>>> (http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Ira+Silverman/2007+PAW/2007+PAW 
>>>> +18A.jpg.html)
>>>>
>>>> Both with Canon 30D, 75-300 EF IS Zoom, ISO 800.
>>>>
>>>> As always, comments welcomed and appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Ira Silverman
>>>> Irvine, California
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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