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Subject: [Leica] M8
From: len-1 at comcast.net (Leonard Taupier)
Date: Sun Mar 4 16:48:58 2007
References: <030520070034.18361.45EB657F00099E97000047B9219792676103010CD2079C080C03BF970A9D9F9A0B9D09@mchsi.com>

Gene,

I find the SF24d gives me great results when I shoot RAW. When I  
shoot jpg's, I get under exposure by at least 1 stop. I don't have a  
SB600 but I do use my D200 with the built-in flash and the SB800. I  
don't recall having a problem. What kind of problems?

Len


On Mar 4, 2007, at 7:34 PM, grduprey@mchsi.com wrote:

> I have an M8 and have tried the flash using the SF24D flash with  
> somewhat mixed results.  I am having the same problem with my D200  
> using the SB600 flash.  So I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong or if  
> flash with Digital is just a big guessing game.
>
> Gene
>
> -------------- Original message from Kids Gruber  
> <terry@gruberphotographers.com>: --------------
>
>
>> Has anyone tried the M8 and have they tried getting the ttl flash  
>> sca 3052?
>>
>>
>> On 3/4/07 5:38 PM, "Ric Carter" wrote:
>>
>>> I don't like cold weather, but I sure like your cold weather photos.
>>>
>>> Ric
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 2, 2007, at 7:45 PM, Robert Rose wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just came back from Yosemite and Moose Peterson's DLWS workshop,
>>>> and I
>>>> uploaded a few of the images I made with the M8:
>>>>
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/rjrose/yose/
>>>>
>>>> Included are several made with the 135, and one IR image. I hope
>>>> you like
>>>> them. I was there 5 days, and I shot the M8 on one day, and a D2X
>>>> the rest
>>>> of the time. It got down to 18 degrees one day, but rained on us
>>>> several
>>>> other days.
>>>>
>>>> Some working impressions. Your results may vary:
>>>>
>>>> 1. The M8 performed in rain and 18 degree weather without a
>>>> hitch. The
>>>> battery life was not a problem. We shot from 6-9 am and 3-6 pm. I
>>>> ran out a
>>>> 2GB card in each session, and the battery was still alive  
>>>> through the
>>>> session. I used a fully charged battery for each session. I had
>>>> the review
>>>> on, and monitor brightness turned up.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Dust is more of a problem than on the D2x. Maybe that is
>>>> because there
>>>> is a mirror to deflect dust on the DSLR. The brush from Active
>>>> Dust worked
>>>> to clean up the sensors each night.
>>>>
>>>> 5. The IR shot was manual color balanced using the ExpoDisk. The
>>>> ExpoDisk
>>>> (a white diffusion disk) works really well to get manual color
>>>> balance, but
>>>> works even better to spot dust problems after changing lenses. I
>>>> shot an
>>>> f/16 image with an ExpoDisk, and then it was easy to see whether
>>>> there were
>>>> any big goobers. The light changes constantly, so manual color
>>>> balance is
>>>> not useful for the color shots.
>>>>
>>>> 6. Precise framing is impossible. So, for landscape work the
>>>> camera is a
>>>> challenge. You have to look on the monitor and retake the shot.
>>>>
>>>> 7. I have not printed anything yet on my 3800, but on the  
>>>> monitor the
>>>> technical quality of the M8 beats or exceeds the D2x (no
>>>> surprise). The M8
>>>> has 10Mb compared to 12Mb, but with slightly larger pixels.
>>>>
>>>> 8. I am not sure if the larger pixel size helped with dynamic
>>>> range, but I
>>>> seemed to have less highlight blowout with the M8 compared to  
>>>> the D2x.
>>>>
>>>> 9. MY KINGDOM FOR AN IR CUTOFF FILTER. My images which have
>>>> people in them
>>>> all show magenta caps, backpacks, etc. LEICA WHERE ARE YOU? You
>>>> promised
>>>> them February 7.
>>>>
>>>> 10. AN IR CUTOFF FILTER ruined my D2X wide shots. In a burst of  
>>>> evil
>>>> genius, I found an IR cut-off that was 77mm, and put it on my
>>>> 17-55. All of
>>>> the shots at 17mm show magenta vignetting! While researching this
>>>> problem
>>>> at the B&W web page, I found out that you can't use the filter  
>>>> on wide
>>>> angles lenses. Go know. So, that is why the Leica lenses must be
>>>> coded,
>>>> and the new firmware installed to overcome this problem.
>>>>
>>>> 11. ND Grad filters are a challenge to use. You have to reshoot
>>>> using the
>>>> monitor.
>>>>
>>>> 11. The Leica M8, a Tri-Elmar, a 135, and maybe a 90 are all the
>>>> lenses you
>>>> need for landscape shots. It replaces a TON of DSLR grear if  
>>>> precise
>>>> framing is not needed, or you are not using ND grad filters.
>>>>
>>>> That's all for now!
>>>>
>>>> Bob Rose
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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