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Subject: [Leica] What Desktop Computer to Buy These Days?
From: jsmith342 at cox.net (Jeffery Smith)
Date: Wed Jan 31 18:08:30 2007

I had a Toshiba laptop with a known bug that caused the disk drive to trash
floppy disks. They apparently covered it up. I'm glad to see them in the
loser column with Gateway. 

Jeffery Smith
New Orleans, LA
http://www.400tx.com
http://400tx.blogspot.com/



-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Rei
Shinozuka
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 7:50 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] What Desktop Computer to Buy These Days?


from last year, forrester research already was putting gateway in the
basement based on a 4,000 household survey. Brand trust is among the
criteria:

http://www.physorg.com/news63546986.html

Winners: Sony, HP, Dell, Bose, Panasonic, Apple, Tivo

Losers: Microsoft, Gateway, LG, Toshiba, Hitachi

-rei



On Jan31 19:24, Jeffery Smith wrote:
> I don't think I'll ever buy a Gateway again. Mine is about 4 years 
> old, and I tried to upgrade my memory to 1gb. Only Gateway sells the 
> memory, and they wanted a preposterous sum of money for it (like more 
> money than it would cost to buy a brand new faster HP with 2gb of 
> memory). To me, that is customer support at its very worst.
> 
> Jeffery Smith
> New Orleans, LA
> http://www.400tx.com
> http://400tx.blogspot.com/
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of 
> Adam Bridge
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 7:08 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] What Desktop Computer to Buy These Days?
> 
> 
> Robert,
> 
> I don't play on the Windows side in any way but I sure am impressed 
> with what HP has been doing in terms of their user-experience for 
> delivered products. I've unpacked a few of them and found the 
> instructions to be without peer, even better than Apple's. Maybe the 
> best instructions I have ever used.
> 
> I used to really trust HP as a company. No longer, what with all their 
> idiocy at the board level, but they still know how to engineer and 
> create good products and now their designs are truly done world-wide.
> 
> As a Mac guy I'm always there to boost it - but if you have lots of 
> software and experience using Windows, and you aren't having the 
> down-side of Windows because you're sophisticated enough to set up and 
> maintain your system to be virus/spyware free, why change and lose the 
> productivity while you relearn another way to do things? I find that 
> Photoshop on the PC feels alien to me and imagine that you'd find the 
> same experience on the Mac coming over from Windows.
> 
> I won't get into all the arguing and brick-bat throwing that goes with 
> whether one system is better built than another. I know that my G5 
> desktop system is like a rock - fast and stable. My laptops have been 
> very good. More expensive? I don't know. But if you buy a system of 
> equal capability from HP or Dell I have to think the Mac would come in 
> about the same price: much of the chip set is the same. There will be 
> fewer driver issues on the Mac because the hardware is owned by Apple 
> which makes things a lot easier and most Windows people who complain 
> seem to have driver issues at some point (as I hear them).
> 
> Hope this helps. Keep your life simple.
> 
> Adam
> 
> On 1/31/07, Robert D. Baron <rbaron@concentric.net> wrote:
> > My trusty Dell P4 1.7 ghz with 1 gb of ram turned 5 years old this
> > month, and like me, it is starting to have trouble keeping up with the 
> > younger generation....so I would like to ask for the wisdom of the LUG 
> > regarding a replacement.
> >
> > Aside from surfing the internet and a little word processing and Quicken
> >    financial and such, my main need is for a machine that will 
> > quickly
> > operate the very latest versions of photoshop and lightroom and their 
> > various third-party plugins and maybe an image cataloging program if I 
> > can settle on one I like.
> >
> > I am not a gamer and although I might watch a movie on it I don't 
> > see
> > myself doing much video editing.
> >
> > I see three routes:
> >
> > 1. A new Dell;
> >
> > 2. A new local shop built; or
> >
> > 3. A new Mac Pro.
> >
> > It would be easier for me to stick with Windows XP Pro because I 
> > know
> > it, but I bought a G4 Powerbook to learn on last year and in light of 
> > the new intel chip Macs that allow the running of some windows programs
> >   I am not totally Mac averse.
> >
> > A little while back people were speaking poorly of Dell quality.  
> > Has
> > that changed?
> >
> > Obviously the key elements I need to consider are which processor 
> > and
> > which video card; I know to load up on ram.
> >
> > With those questions, and with a projected budget as far below 
> > $3,000
> > US as I can stay, what is the current wisdom? What specifications do I 
> > need?
> >
> > Many thanks for your help.
> >
> > --Bob Baron / Oklahoma City
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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Rei Shinozuka shino@panix.com
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