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Subject: [Leica] What Desktop Computer to Buy These Days?
From: shino at panix.com (Rei Shinozuka)
Date: Wed Jan 31 17:50:08 2007
References: <4cfa589b0701311707w2bcf874pc7f639f1c2b10ed8@mail.gmail.com> <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAZ3JtMefzDkGKWomBDN4A5MKAAAAQAAAA8VUkMcqRhkuRPzkg1Bp4mAEAAAAA@cox.net>

from last year, forrester research already was putting gateway
in the basement based on a 4,000 household survey. Brand trust
is among the criteria:

http://www.physorg.com/news63546986.html

Winners: Sony, HP, Dell, Bose, Panasonic, Apple, Tivo

Losers: Microsoft, Gateway, LG, Toshiba, Hitachi

-rei



On Jan31 19:24, Jeffery Smith wrote:
> I don't think I'll ever buy a Gateway again. Mine is about 4 years old, and
> I tried to upgrade my memory to 1gb. Only Gateway sells the memory, and 
> they
> wanted a preposterous sum of money for it (like more money than it would
> cost to buy a brand new faster HP with 2gb of memory). To me, that is
> customer support at its very worst.
> 
> Jeffery Smith
> New Orleans, LA
> http://www.400tx.com
> http://400tx.blogspot.com/
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Adam
> Bridge
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 7:08 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] What Desktop Computer to Buy These Days?
> 
> 
> Robert,
> 
> I don't play on the Windows side in any way but I sure am impressed with
> what HP has been doing in terms of their user-experience for delivered
> products. I've unpacked a few of them and found the instructions to be
> without peer, even better than Apple's. Maybe the best instructions I have
> ever used.
> 
> I used to really trust HP as a company. No longer, what with all their
> idiocy at the board level, but they still know how to engineer and create
> good products and now their designs are truly done world-wide.
> 
> As a Mac guy I'm always there to boost it - but if you have lots of 
> software
> and experience using Windows, and you aren't having the down-side of 
> Windows
> because you're sophisticated enough to set up and maintain your system to 
> be
> virus/spyware free, why change and lose the productivity while you relearn
> another way to do things? I find that Photoshop on the PC feels alien to me
> and imagine that you'd find the same experience on the Mac coming over from
> Windows.
> 
> I won't get into all the arguing and brick-bat throwing that goes with
> whether one system is better built than another. I know that my G5 desktop
> system is like a rock - fast and stable. My laptops have been very good.
> More expensive? I don't know. But if you buy a system of equal capability
> from HP or Dell I have to think the Mac would come in about the same price:
> much of the chip set is the same. There will be fewer driver issues on the
> Mac because the hardware is owned by Apple which makes things a lot easier
> and most Windows people who complain seem to have driver issues at some
> point (as I hear them).
> 
> Hope this helps. Keep your life simple.
> 
> Adam
> 
> On 1/31/07, Robert D. Baron <rbaron@concentric.net> wrote:
> > My trusty Dell P4 1.7 ghz with 1 gb of ram turned 5 years old this 
> > month, and like me, it is starting to have trouble keeping up with the 
> > younger generation....so I would like to ask for the wisdom of the LUG 
> > regarding a replacement.
> >
> > Aside from surfing the internet and a little word processing and Quicken
> >    financial and such, my main need is for a machine that will quickly 
> > operate the very latest versions of photoshop and lightroom and their 
> > various third-party plugins and maybe an image cataloging program if I 
> > can settle on one I like.
> >
> > I am not a gamer and although I might watch a movie on it I don't see 
> > myself doing much video editing.
> >
> > I see three routes:
> >
> > 1. A new Dell;
> >
> > 2. A new local shop built; or
> >
> > 3. A new Mac Pro.
> >
> > It would be easier for me to stick with Windows XP Pro because I know 
> > it, but I bought a G4 Powerbook to learn on last year and in light of 
> > the new intel chip Macs that allow the running of some windows programs
> >   I am not totally Mac averse.
> >
> > A little while back people were speaking poorly of Dell quality.  Has 
> > that changed?
> >
> > Obviously the key elements I need to consider are which processor and 
> > which video card; I know to load up on ram.
> >
> > With those questions, and with a projected budget as far below $3,000 
> > US as I can stay, what is the current wisdom? What specifications do I 
> > need?
> >
> > Many thanks for your help.
> >
> > --Bob Baron / Oklahoma City
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
> 
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-- 
Rei Shinozuka shino@panix.com
Ridgewood, New Jersey


Replies: Reply from jsmith342 at cox.net (Jeffery Smith) ([Leica] What Desktop Computer to Buy These Days?)
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