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Subject: RE: [Leica] Question about M Adapter Irzoo or Voigtländer
From: luisripoll at telefonica.net (Luis Ripoll)
Date: Mon Dec 25 14:27:14 2006

Thank you very much Douglas, Marshall, Leonard for your answers and
opinions, I think I need a different adapter for the 50mm, and this one
should made by Leitz. With this one I can see the properly framelines for
the screwlenses I have (only the 28 and 50 mm ... For the moment).

All the best for these  Christmas holidays!
Luis 

-----Mensaje original-----
De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En nombre de
Leonard Taupier
Enviado el: lunes, 25 de diciembre de 2006 22:19
Para: Leica Users Group
Asunto: Re: [Leica] Question about M Adapter Irzoo or Voigtl?nder

Hi Marshall,

What I can't understand is why Luis' 5cm/3.5 Elmar infinity lock has an
interference to the V 28/90 adapter and my exact setup does not.  
Can the tolerance on the V adapter be that bad? My lock easily clears the
edge of the adapter. I would more believe there is damage or a poor repair
on his Elmar. I would advise Luis to get a Leica 50mm adapter but don't know
if that will correct his problem.

Len


On Dec 25, 2006, at 3:29 PM, Marshall Hunt wrote:

> The adapter by Leitz is a marvel of precision.  The Leitz adapters are 
> ground for thickness after they are chromed.  The V adapter is 
> not....but that's not your whole problem.  The adapter for lenses 
> which have the infinity lock, and turn the front lens (single helix): 
> Elmar 50 and 35, Summaron 35, have a cutout for the lock.  The flange 
> which contains the name and lens size is about 5mm wide for about 240 
> degrees of the circle.  Then it is made narrower to 3mm wide.  As the 
> lens is screwed into the adapter, the base of the infinity lock moves 
> into the clearance cut.  This gives enough space for the infinity 
> (un)lock to work.  Lenses which do not turn the front lens, like the 
> Summitar and Summicron, have a greater distance between the infinity 
> lock and the camera body flange, and don't need the cutout. It looks 
> like V has that cutout on one of their adapters.
>
> On 12/25/06, Leonard Taupier <len-1@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Luis,
>>
>> I reread your questions and realize I didn't fully answer your 
>> question which is "Is there any adapter that with only one adapter 
>> can I see the framelines for 28/90 and 50?"
>>
>> The answer is almost. And only on a M3 body. The M3 always shows the 
>> 50mm frameline. With the 28/90 adapter, using either a 50mm or 90mm 
>> lens, the 50mm frameline and the 90 frameline will always be shown.
>> The M3 cannot show a 28mm or 35mm frameline (with the original 
>> viewfinder). Do you have a M3 body"  There are no bodies that will 
>> show a 50mm and 28mm frameline at the same time. The only camera that 
>> I know of that can show multiple frames without an adapter is the 
>> Nikon SP rangefinder. It can show 50, 85, 105 and 135 by just turning 
>> a dial.
>>
>> I still don't know why your 5cm Elmar doesn't work. I have 3 lenses 
>> with the little focus tab and button and they all work (wrong lines) 
>> with the Voightlander 28/90. A 35mm and two 50's.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Len
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 25, 2006, at 8:51 AM, Luis Ripoll wrote:
>>
>> > I've get a Voigtl?nder adapter screw lenses M39 to M, on the 
>> > adapter is indicated for 28-90mm, but only the framelines of the 
>> > 28/90 are displayed.
>> > Should I need a different adapter to see the 50mm frameline?, is 
>> > the IRZOO or Leitz reference 14097 better for these purposes? Is 
>> > there any adapter that with only one adapter can I see the 
>> > framelines for 28/90
>> and 50?
>> >
>> > Second question, I can't not put on this adapter the Elmar 
>> > 3,5/5cm., the focusing tab touch the framelines device or the buton 
>> > to take up/on the lenses...., I can only use the Summitar 50 
>> > (without seeing the 50 framelines), and the Hekto F6,3/ 2,8cm.
>> >
>> > Sorry for so many questions, and thanks in advance for your help
>> >
>> > Have a nice Christmas day!
>> >
>> > Saludos desde Barcelona
>> > Luis
>> >
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>>
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