[Leica] I did not buy an M8, but I want one. YEH WELL!

[glehrer at san.rr.com (Jerry Lehrer)]

Ted

Yes, I said that they were given these M8s to USE, not KEEP. They used 
them and
returned them.  So I don't have it "all wrong" as you say.

Of course, I have never been involved in testing for a manufacturer.  I 
am not an exalted
photojournalist or writer, just an overaged engineer.  My opinions would 
never sell
cameras. Your's and David Young's would.  Celebrities sell merchandise.

Jerry
> Jerry Lehrer offered:
>>> Of course, some of the exalted were given FREE M8s to use, but they 
>>> were
> forbidden to mention the problems to the unwashed, under pain of 
> excommunication.<<<
>
> Jerry,
>>> some of the exalted were given FREE M8s to use,<<<<<
>
> Actually you really have it all wrong about the above free! Certainly 
> when you don't know the truth on both sides of a situation! And what 
> came with it was.... "not to post pictures!"
>
> Besides when one is engaged in testing for any manufacture one doesn't 
> go blabbing their mouth off in public about their findings. I suppose 
> it's quite possible you've never been involved in this kind of 
> testing/reporting activity therefore you can blab all you want about 
> what you think.
>
> The cameras that were "loaned to certain people were because of their 
> technical skills and years of experience as professional 
> photographers!" Particularly using Leica cameras of many versions. And 
> were offered for "TEST PURPOSE ONLY!"
>
> Read this part carefully.. "AND THEY MUST BE RETURNED! PERIOD!!!!!!!
> And they were!
>
> So quite frankly no one I'm aware of, exalted or other wise, got to 
> keep them!!
>
> So before you rag on about very talented people on list who received a 
> camera for testing and intelligent reports of what their experiences 
> were, wouldn't you think to get your story right first?
>
> My good fortune actually "using three different M8's" Over the past 
> several months I have not encountered any of the so called grief 
> others claim in whatever written reports or posted to various sites.
>
> Maybe some of this has to do with.... "I'm a photojournalist first!"  
> And a techie freak 13th! The bottom line of this for me, as always 
> with any Leica or other camera is,..... "How good are the moments 
> captured?" That's it.
>
> However I am known to have offered Leica Canada a little situation 
> about an R4 replacement several years ago rather than a 4th time of 
> supposedly fixing a piece of R4 junk! Again!
>
> "Either give me a new R4 or at noon the news media of Toronto will be 
> at your door step and video tape as well as shoot stills of me 
> smashing this Leica R4 to a million pieces!" One might say not good PR 
> for Leica! :-)
>
> They thought I was being a tad dramatic and offered to "fix the R4" 
> one more time, for free!  However at noon the news folks were there 
> and before I got a chance at the first swing to concrete steps I was 
> invited to enjoy my "brand new in box R4!"   Case closed!
>
> I don't molly coddle Leica camera's because I expect them to work, 
> with the same expectation no different than the M8 to work.  All this 
> bitching, whining is crap as far as I'm concerned....... until I see 
> it from the cameras in hand! And only then will I accept there's a 
> problem. And only then will I take it up with leica, not the world of 
> the internet!
>
> OK yer turn.
>
> ted
>
>
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