Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/10/29

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Subject: [Leica] Rockport Leica Seminar - M8 Impressions
From: r.s.taylor at comcast.net (Richard S. Taylor)
Date: Sun Oct 29 08:04:09 2006
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Mark - Did Capture One deal with the magenta shifts we saw?


>Richard Taylor asked:
>>Do you see significant differences between the in-camera fine JPGs 
>>and images processed in from the DNG files?
>
>What I see in the in camera JPGs is a small amount of artifact in 
>the very finest detail of landscape shots.  Also the DNG files have 
>a somewhat extended dynamic range, but I didn't test this 
>specifically, so I don't know how many stops you get.
>
>Just today I have briefly played with a demo copy of Capture One 
>(from www.phaseone.com), and this gives really good color from the 
>Leica M8 DNGs without any fiddling.  The noise reduction also seems 
>to be well matched to the images.
>
>Mark
>
>
>>From: "Richard S. Taylor" <r.s.taylor@comcast.net>
>>Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>>To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>>Subject: RE: [Leica] Rockport Leica Seminar - M8 Impressions
>>Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 21:05:58 -0400
>>
>>Mark - The detail in that pano shot is amazing.  Having 10MP does 
>>make a difference.  I must say though that the images you developed 
>>from the DNG files don't look that much different than the JPGs the 
>>camera developed of my images.  Makes me wonder if the DNG 
>>development effort is worth the effort for any but the most 
>>difficult images or greatest enlargements.  Do you see significant 
>>differences between the in-camera fine JPGs and images processed in 
>>from the DNG files?
>>
>>I've downloaded Lightroom and just started to play with it.  I'm 
>>really interested in seeing if it simplifies the workflow I've 
>>developed in PS/CS.  It'll be my introduction to development of DNG 
>>files, too.  Mostly I've worked with JPGs.
>>
>>>I also had an opportunity to shoot the M8 for a few hours at 
>>>Rockport.  My impressions mostly follow Richard's.  A few 
>>>additional comments:
>>>
>>>I have been using Lightroom beta 4 for processing groups of 
>>>photographs.  I found I had to do a lot of tweaking with the DNG 
>>>files coming from the M8, but they do look nice after some work. 
>>>When I shot DNG + JPG, the JPGs look quite good, so Lightroom 
>>>really is not respecting the in camera processing settings.  I did 
>>>not have the Leica provided Capture One converter available to me.
>>>
>>>I tried using manual exposure on a cold morning, and my stiff 
>>>finger kept hitting the on-off switch and turning the camera off 
>>>when I was trying to set the shutter speed.
>>>
>>>Samples can be found at
>>>
>>>http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/MarkEDavison/Rockport+M8+samples/
>>>
>>>These are all jpgs produced from DNG originals via Adobe 
>>>Lightroom. In a few cases I had to do further compression via 
>>>Photoshop CS2 to come in under the 5 MB limit.  The panorama was 
>>>quickly stitched together in Photoshop--there are a few stitching 
>>>glitches remaining.
>>>
>>>Overall I find the M8 a marvelous camera.  It is tuned towards 
>>>very high resolution rather than noise suppression.  The color and 
>>>dynamic range available from the DNG files is very good, but there 
>>>is a tendency towards overly magenta shadows in skin tones that I 
>>>found hard to take out with Lightroom beta 4.  I've got an M8 on 
>>>order.
>>>
>>>Mark Davison
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>--
>>Regards,
>>
>>Dick
>>
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-- 
Regards,

Dick

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