Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/10/08
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]If you want R7 size, you buy 4/3 system I suspect. On 09/10/2006, at 1:13, grduprey@mchsi.com wrote: > Douglas, > > I would like to see a R4-7 size from anybody at this point. If > Leica could do it, I think they would own the market. All digital > SLRs are much larger than the R4 size. I would not hold my breath > at this ppoint. Personnaly I think the R8/9 size is far better > than the R4 series, my R 4 is small and hard to use comapred to the > R8. > > Gene > > > -------------- Original message from Douglas Sharp > <douglas.sharp@gmx.de>: -------------- > > >> Let's just hope they return to R4-R7 styling and size if/when they >> decide to release an R10D. The R8/9 are just too voluminous, even for >> my big hands. >> IMO, the only way they will get into the market for "real" DSLRs >> will be >> with a full frame (12 or more mP) sensor enabling the use of existing >> R-lenses as they were intended to be used. Focus confirmation for >> manual >> lenses, and AF with a new series of lenses is perhaps a little too >> much >> to hope for. >> Knowing Leica's past record, they would probably put in a terribly >> complicated hybrid system to switch a full size sensor to 4/3 and use >> existing/planned 4/3 lenses too :-) >> Douglas >> >> Howard Cummer wrote: >>> I think Leica (Steven Lee) is very aware that the company needs to >>> broaden its customer base. They have teamed up with Panasonic and >>> indirectly with Olympus to design lenses for the 4/3rd system and to >>> market a series of Luxes based on the cooperation between Leica and >>> Panasonic. I learned at Photokina that the agreement between >>> Leica and >>> Panasonic has been extended for another five years so that should >>> continue to be a source of a greater variety of product and >>> hopefully >>> a widening customer base. Leica hopes that M8's will start >>> showing up >>> in the camera bags of the pros again as film M's used to in addition >>> to the Cankon SLRs in the old days of film. If the pros have kept >>> their old film M's and lenses I think there is a good possibility >>> Leica may be right about sales to Pros. The hard nut to crack is new >>> rangefinder users. Coming to an M8 plus new Leica lenses is just too >>> expensive if you are not already addicted to the rangefinder >>> shooting >>> experience. And, of course, there is the question of the R >>> series. The >>> digital R back is just a stop gap, in my view, while Leica gains >>> time >>> to develop an integrated digital R body. Hopefully the Sinar >>> purchase >>> will provide a source of expertise in this regard. And regarding R >>> lenses they can be used on the 4/3rd system with an adaptor and with >>> good focusing results using the magnified LCD screen. Of course, the >>> decisive moment becomes very theoretical due to the time it takes to >>> fiddle with the focus. In sum, my impression is that Leica is moving >>> forward on several fronts and hopefully enough cash flow / even >>> profit >>> will be generated to get them to a more financially stable place >>> than >>> they have been. Certainly the success of the M8 is crucial to >>> that but >>> is not the only success required. >>> Howard >>> (Back in Hong Kong jet lag subsiding) >>> >>> >>> >>> On 8 Oct 2006, at 6:14 AM, lug-request@leica-users.org wrote: >>> >>>> Message: 25 >>>> Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2006 14:33:52 -0700 >>>> From: Richard >>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] An American Yankee in Herr Leitz' Court >>>> To: Leica Users Group , Leica Users Group >>>> >>>> Message-ID: <6.1.0.6.2.20061007143129.084eb9f8@192.168.100.42> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >>>> >>>> Nah, you don't need to attract 100% of the new customers to buy >>>> a M7 >>>> or M8, >>>> you only need to attract large number of customers to buy the >>>> "cheaper" >>>> d-luxes, c-luxes, etc. and if 10% and 20% of the new customers buy >>>> the M7 >>>> or M8, then might be sufficient. >>>> >>>> At 02:21 PM 10/7/2006, Nathan Wajsman wrote: >>>> >>>>> John, >>>>> >>>>> I agree that the M8 is an excellent product, based on the >>>>> reports we >>>>> have >>>>> seen here on the list and on my own fondling of it at Photokina >>>>> last >>>>> weekend. I am speaking purely from a marketing point of view: the >>>>> LHSA/LUG >>>>> crowd is simply not big enough to sustain the company. The >>>>> challenge >>>>> is to >>>>> get new customers, people who have not previously used Leica. >>>>> Whether they >>>>> will be able to do that at the price point they currently are >>>>> at is >>>>> another matter. >>>>> >>>>> Nathan >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information