Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/10/02
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Well, I got my first Pentax - a Honeywell Pentax - in 1963 for my 17th birthday - so there..;-) (With the Takamur (sp) 50 1.8 and a Schneider 135 f 3.5) On 10/2/06 8:19 PM, "Walt Johnson" <walt@waltjohnson.com> wrote: > Mea Culpa > > And who scans slides on a desktop? Not to one-up you old sport but I > bought my first Pentax (Asahi) in Vietnam for 35 bucks, circa 1966. > > B. D. Colen wrote: > >> Hi, Wee Wally. I think you may be missing a wee point; I did NOT say that >> he'd get better images with digital - although I think he would. And I did >> NOT say he shouldn't shoot film - I'd never say that. What I said was that >> scanning a slide on an Epson desk top scanner, and comparing your results >> to >> what your eye sees in a slide, says absolutely nothing about whether >> digital >> "capture," which I consider shooting an image with digital, using a >> full-frame high end digital camera, does or doesn't compare favorably with >> film. That's all. I still have - and have on my website - film images shot >> with a pre-K1000 Pentax. ;-) >> >> >> On 10/2/06 6:32 PM, "Walt Johnson" <walt@waltjohnson.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> B.D. >>> >>> Sorry old pal but this is beginning to sound like hokee bokee to me. I >>> can buy a 25 year old Pentax K1000 for $125. How much will it cost me to >>> move into the "real world" with the Canon? My Pentax K1000 will be hard >>> to beat, especially if I pay attention to image content. >>> >>> Wee Wally Winkle >>> >>> B. D. Colen wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> I'm sure you realize, Phil, that the fact that your scans of your slides >>>> aren't up to the quality you see in your slides doesn't prove anything - >>>> except that your 4490 scanner (hardly the be-all and end-all in >>>> scanning) >>>> combined with your scanning skills can't produce scans that are the >>>> same as >>>> what your eyes see in the slides. Before you can say that the "50 year >>>> old >>>> technology still trumps digital capture," perhaps you should compare >>>> digital >>>> capture to the 50-year-old technology - because, of course, there is >>>> nothing >>>> in your post about digital capture: >>>> Put a full-frame digital SLR - say the Canon EOS1DS MkII on a tripod, >>>> next >>>> to whatever film camera you're taking. Shoot the same scene, with the >>>> same >>>> lens, and equivalent exposures - after you've calibrated for the >>>> camera's >>>> sensor, make adjustments in Photoshop, because of course you'll be >>>> shooting >>>> RAW and the image will need sharpening and the same kind of contrast >>>> adjustment the film gives the scene, and then begin to make comparisons. >>>> >>>> It's great that you're happy with the "50 year-old-technology;" but >>>> please, >>>> let's talk real comparisons if you're going to make comparisons. ;-) >>>> >>>> >>>> On 10/2/06 2:47 PM, "Philip Forrest" <photo.forrest@earthlink.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Here are a few scans of some Velvia 100 I shot out in Bryn Mawr, PA >>>>> earlier >>>>> this spring with Jim Shulman. My Epson 4490 just doesn't have the >>>>> dynamic >>>>> range of the chromes themselves. I would have to do multiple scans >>>>> weighted >>>>> towards each color channel in order to get the incredible amount of >>>>> saturation that the film shows. One more reason why 50 year old >>>>> technology >>>>> still trumps digital capture. Not that I don't like digital, I just >>>>> don't >>>>> love it like my Velvia. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a335/PForrest/BrynMawr_04E.jpg >>>>> >>>>> http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a335/PForrest/BrynMawr_03E.jpg >>>>> >>>>> http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a335/PForrest/BrynMawr_02E.jpg >>>>> >>>>> http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a335/PForrest/BrynMawr_01E.jpg >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information