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Subject: [Leica] Tri Elmar M 16-18-21 mm F4 ASPH lens
From: grduprey at mchsi.com (grduprey@mchsi.com)
Date: Tue Sep 19 17:46:17 2006

Yep, thats what I saw.

Gene


-------------- Original message from Henning Wulff 
<henningw@archiphoto.com>: -------------- 


> >Gene, 
> >Yes on an M7. 
> >No on an M8. Want to bet a six pack on it ;-) 
> >The universal wide finder does not compensate 
> >for the "crop factor". There is no interface 
> >with the camera except for a shoe mount. 
> >The internal finder does compensate, of course. 
> > 
> >Cheers 
> >Hoppy 
> 
> I think you guys missed this before, but I'll 
> point it out again. There are TWO lines on the 
> dial on which you set the focal length. One for 
> the M8, one for the film bodies. Easy. Both 
> formats are taken care of. 
> 
> The dpreview picture of the finder shows this clearly. 
> 
> Please contact me for information on how to send me my sixpack. :-) 
> 
> >-----Original Message----- 
> >From: 
> >lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org 
> >[mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] 
> >On Behalf Of 
> >grduprey@mchsi.com 
> >Sent: Monday, 18 September 2006 01:02 
> >To: Leica Users Group 
> >Subject: RE: [Leica] Tri Elmar M 16-18-21 mm F4 ASPH lens 
> > 
> >Looking at the dial on the new finder, it looks 
> >like you set the focal lenght for the actual 
> >focal length for the camera. And that 
> >is what I also got reading the DPreviw artical 
> >and the lit from Leica on their site. 
> > 
> >Gene 
> > 
> > 
> >-------------- Original message from "G 
> >Hopkinson" : 
> >-------------- 
> > 
> > 
> >> Gene, what about on an M7 
> >> What about the current 21 on an M8? 
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message----- 
> >> From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org 
> >> [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf 
> >> Of 
> >> grduprey@mchsi.com 
> >> Sent: Saturday, 16 September 2006 15:01 
> >> To: Leica Users Group 
> >> Subject: RE: [Leica] Tri Elmar M 16-18-21 mm F4 ASPH lens 
> >> 
> >> Actually Hoppy, you set the finder for the focal lenght of the lens you 
> >> are 
> >> attaching, as Tom alluded to several posts ago. 
> >> 
> >> Gene 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -------------- Original message from "G Hopkinson" : 
> >> -------------- 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> > And the quoted price for lens and universal 
> >>wide angle finder is 3,500 Euro. 
> >> > Actually when you read the spec more carefully, that finder will 
> >> > display 5 
> >> > frames (all singly), being 16, 18, 21, 24 & 28. Since 
> >> > there's no interface with the camera (except 
> >>for a mounting foot) I guess you 
> >> > need to remember which to select on the M7 etc or M8. 
> >> > 
> >> > So for M8: 
> >> > with the new Tri-Elmar you set 16, 18 or 21 
> >>but you actually get 21, 24 or 28 
> >> > effectively. 
> >> > If you fit the current 21 you'd need to set 
> >>28. For the 24, 28 and up you use 
> >> > the camera's finder. 
> >> > 
> >> > For the M7 and earlier, you can use 16, 18 or 21 as 16, 18, or 21 
> >> > For the current 21, 24 and 28 you can set 21, 24, or 28 
> >> > For 28 (.72 & lower) and up you can use the camera finder. 
> >> > 
> >> > My brain hurts, I need to lie down now. 
> >> > 
> >> > Cheers Hoppy 
> >> > 51 this year or 68 effective with crop factor. 
> >> > 
> >> > -----Original Message----- 
> >> > From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org 
> >> > [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On 
> >> > Behalf Of 
> >> > grduprey@mchsi.com 
> >> > Sent: Saturday, 16 September 2006 13:41 
> >> > To: Leica Users Group 
> >> > Subject: RE: [Leica] Tri Elmar M 16-18-21 mm F4 ASPH lens 
> >> > 
> >> > The Leica web site has all the info on it 
> >>also. Considering the cost of the 
> >> > Zeiss single/double lens finders compared to the tri 
> >> > finder from Leica, can't be that bad. And 
> >>then it is the only finder you would 
> >> > need. 
> >> > 
> >> > Gene 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > -------------- Original message from "G Hopkinson" : 
> >> > -------------- 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > > Mark the specs and brochure are released, 
> >>at least to user forum members. I 
> >> > > guess they must be in wide circulation by now. 
> >> > > It does look yummy. Its Dimensions and weight 
> >> > > Length to bayonet flange approx. 63mm 
> >> > > Largest diameter approx. 55mm 
> >> > > Weight approx. 350g 
> >> > > For us metric folks. 
> >> > > 
> >> > > But you are going to have to buy the horrendously complex and 
> >> > > expensive 
> >> super 
> >> > > finder thingie to go with it. 
> >> > > 
> >> > > Cheers 
> >> > > Hoppy 
> >> > > 
> >> > > 
> >> > > -----Original Message----- 
> >> > > From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org 
> > > > > 
> >[mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] 
> >On Behalf Of 
> >> > > Mark Rabiner 
> >> > > Sent: Friday, 15 September 2006 10:44 
> >> > > To: lug@leica-users.org 
> >> > > Subject: [Leica] Tri Elmar M 16-18-21 mm F4 ASPH lens 
> >> > > 
> >> > > http://www.dpreview.com/articles/leicam8/ 
> >> > > !!!!!!!~!!!!! 
> >> > > 
> >> > > I'm not seeing any mention of this mouth 
> >>watering hot little volcano of an 
> >> > > item as part of the dpreview article on 
> >>the M8. I wonder if anyone bothered 
> >> > > turning the page!!!?!. 
> >> > > I think we're all to busy playing with our DSLR's to bother with 
> >> > > what's 
> >> > > happening with Leica. 
> >> > > 
> >> > > On your M8 it becomes an 21-24-28 mm. 
> >> > > 
> >> > > Film M users might clamor for a 21-24-28 mm. Putting it mildly. 
> >> > > Could get them to learn to love the digital revolution. 
> >> > > To go with their 16-18-21 mm which has revolutionized their Leica 
> >> > > film 
> >> > > shooting. 
> >> > > Not that THAT would NOT also revolutionize their film shooting. 
> >> > > As they've promised it covers a whole hunk of 24x36mm flim. 
> >> > > 
> >> > > But sooner or later it will be interesting and I think it will be 
> >> > > after 
> >> > > another year that Leica makes a lens optimized for the 1.33 
> >> > > "format". 
> >> > > With advantages in the compactness end as 
> >>well as the quality of the other 
> >> > > end as its an optic designed around a much smaller image circle. 
> >> > > And can 
> >> > > thus be made to produce a higher quality image in that area. 
> >> > > Smaller the circle the higher the resolution and so on are going to 
> >> > > be. 
> >> > > Some of us may not know that. Glass which 
> >>covers medium format as in 6x6cm 
> >> > > do not have the rez in a 24x36 area tat a 
> >>lens designed for that format has. 
> >> > > And its obvious a medium format lens is 
> >>nowhere near as compact as lenses 
> >> > > made for 35. 
> >> > > 
> >> > > I've been loving using my 55-200mm F/4-5.6G ED AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 
> >> > > lens. 
> >> > > Featherweight and incredibly compact. 
> >> > > Its an 80-300 which looks like a 105 2.5 or 80 or smaller. 
> >> > > Especially if you leave the lens shade off. 
> >> > > The guy across the street would have no idea you were getting a 
> >> > > tight 
> >> > > headshot of his Pomeranian. 
> >> > > 
> >> > > Or Shih Tzu. 
> >> > > 
> >> > > Or Brussels Griffon. 
> >> > > 
> >> > > 
> >> > > 
> >> > > 
> >> > > 
> >> > > 
> >> > > 
> >> > > 
> >> > > Mark Rabiner 
> >> > > 
> >> > > 40°46'58.65"N 73°49'31.68"W 
> >> > > Whitestone NY 11357 
> >> > > 
> >> > > http://rabinergroup.com/ 
> >> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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