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Subject: [Leica] Re:Re:Skin tone - film vs. digital (not a debate)
From: jgovindaraj at eth.net (Jayanand Govindaraj)
Date: Sun Sep 3 20:58:45 2006
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Don,
Agreed.
Cheers
Jayanand

Don Dory wrote:

> Jayanand,
> May I humbly suggest that for some number of very skilled 
> professionals the
> tool either does or does not matter.  Example one would be the vast 
> numbers
> of professionals that used the 105 Nikkor so that a lot of 
> portrait/fashion
> all looked the same: then some enterprising photographers started 
> going out
> to 300 and some down to 20mm to make themselves different.  Some
> professionals find that the DMR provides a different look that sets them
> apart and hence marketable. In a reverse example we have highly acclaimed
> photographers using Holga's or other "inappropriate"  equipment for 
> the same
> reasons.
>
> I would never state that the DMR will be mainstream or sell in large 
> numbers
> compared to D200's or D30's, but some folk find it quite useful to stand
> out.  And, on the wide angle end, you will not find a better lens than
> either the 15mm or the 19mm so again, for the right person, a competitive
> advantage.
>
> Obviously, with the sales numbers that the R series generates this is a
> small number of people, but then, Leica's aren't exactly well marketed 
> and I
> suspect that we are down to a very few truly knowledgeable sales folk 
> that
> can explain why this might be useful for specific people.  Scott's 
> example
> of the advantage of low key photography to film is one place where a
> film/digital camera might make sense.
>
> Rather than make the price/performance argument, let me simply state that
> only the person/company can make the decision on what capital equipment
> makes sense for the project at hand.  The new Airbus is frightfully
> expensive both in original cost and infrastructure investment to use the
> plane, but some airlines are making the wager that it will make them 
> money.
> In the hobby arena, a truly match grade pistol or rifle is many times 
> more
> expensive than the plain jane rival and all will put a hole in the target
> but....
>
> Really, what tools or toys are bought and used or fondled is up to the
> individual/organisation that uses them.  It is their capital, time, and
> reputation so who cares what someone else acquires?
>
> Cheers, and have a marvelous day pushing the shutter release.
>
> Don
> don.dory@gmail.com
>
>
>
> On 9/3/06, Jayanand Govindaraj <jgovindaraj@eth.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> I dont say that - the Hassy is a fairly unique animal, as is the M
>> series - the R8/R9 are not, despite whatever apologists might say. I
>> would guess that the Nikon F100, leave alone the Nikon F6, would run
>> rings around the R8/9 as a film camera. I will also stake anything on
>> the fact that if I send a few prints shot with different cameras/lenses,
>> hardly anyone would be able to identify them correctly.  Remember Leica
>> markets on cachet - which is logical given Hermes' strengths.
>> Cheers
>> Jayanand Govindaraj
>>
>>
>>
>> Christopher Williams wrote:
>>
>> >Then is the Hassy H2d a waste of $22,000? Lots of professionals do not
>> think
>> >so.
>> >
>> >Chris
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "Jayanand Govindaraj" Subject: Re: [Leica] Re:Skin tone - film 
>> vs.
>> >digital (not a debate)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>Dont you think, in the world of professional photography (Doug Herr
>> >>excepted), that the DMR is irrelevant? If cost/benefit does not 
>> enter an
>> >>equation, then it is just an instrument for rich amateurs to gush over
>> >>each other, like Linn turntables or Lamborghinis - a status symbol, to
>> >>be sold at a high price, in low quantities, to keep the cachet alive.
>> >>Classic Hermes marketing. I have yet to read a comparision of the DMR
>> >>with anything anywhere, either in print or online, in a non specialist
>> >>site. A Leica rangefinder is pretty unique, a Leica SLR much less so.
>> >>Cheers
>> >>Jayanand Govindaraj
>> >>Chennai, India
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Message from jgovindaraj at eth.net (Jayanand Govindaraj) ([Leica] Re:Skin tone - film vs. digital (not a debate))
Message from leicachris at worldnet.att.net (Christopher Williams) ([Leica] Re:Re:Skin tone - film vs. digital (not a debate))
Message from jgovindaraj at eth.net (Jayanand Govindaraj) ([Leica] Re:Re:Skin tone - film vs. digital (not a debate))
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