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Subject: [Leica] Re:Skin tone - film vs. digital (not a debate)
From: scott at adrenaline.com (Scott McLoughlin)
Date: Sat Sep 2 23:31:49 2006
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Thanks. I can stick the camera on a tripod and just
use myself as a subject and crank through a
series of WB settings for the strobes and then for
the SB800.

I've mucked around with some of the B&W printing
options, but I'm still a printing wimp (B&W or color). 
Someday I need to spring for the tools to make my
own paper profiles (and Quadtone RIP curves) and
take control of all the variables (I have a 2200).

Scott

Christopher Williams wrote:

>No digital can do NPH. Nada. Fuji S3 comes close. It's a shame Fuji is the
>only one that tries to imitate film colors. Kind of like camera companies
>should be the only one making cameras.
>
>I just set the camera at sRGB.
>
>You can set a Custom WB with the SB800, but yes I've read where using a
>speedlight + studio lights can cause off color WB. Try also using the Kelvin
>Temp on the D200. 5600 is supposed to be flash.
>
>White folks are all sorts of color, that's what you get when you try world
>domination a few thousand times or inbreeding among royalty/trailer parks.
>
>Try shooting a creole wedding, no one has the same skin color.
>
>And always have a good printer, either human or mechanical.
>
>Chris
>
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>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Scott McLoughlin"
>Subject: Re: [Leica] Re:Skin tone - film vs. digital (not a debate)
>
>
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>>Chris,
>>
>>Thanks for going through all the variables I should consider.
>>
>>I've taken one vivid shot, of a rusty lamp on a boat. Dunno
>>why, but that captured the greenish patina where my normal
>>mode didn't.
>>
>>I have the camera setup for Adobe RGB. That should be ok,
>>right?  I don't recalibrate every week, but I also use a Trinitron
>>CRT that I'll calibrate every month or two.
>>
>>Perhaps it is a WB problem.
>>
>>First, generally, I'm a low contrast NPH (now 400H) kind
>>of guy.  And in the next few days I'll dip into my new
>>stash of Sensia.  NPH is more or less made for people
>>pics - popular wedding film, etc.  I wonder if I'm just not
>>going to get that kind of look out of my DSLR "in camera."
>>
>>Second, while I carry around a white card, I don't use it
>>nearly as much as I should (like having dental floss....) I
>>have to have better habits here. I have little excuse, because
>>I'm rarely a quick shooting kind of shooter.
>>
>>Third, now that I think of it, I use my DSLR with flash quite
>>a bit - either an SB800 or especially a pair of Alien Bees 800's.
>>This might present a particular kind of WB problem.
>>
>>But, I'm going to tweak the in camera settings a bit until
>>something good happens or I get bored :-)
>>
>>So, now a question - how to get a good custom WB when
>>using artificial lighting, either with on camera flash (or a flash
>>bracket) or with studio strobes?
>>
>>And a comment. My brother adopted a little black girl, and
>>her skin tones come out just fine. It seems I have a white
>>people skin problem.
>>
>>Again, thanks.
>>
>>Scott
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Message from scott at adrenaline.com (Scott McLoughlin) ([Leica] Re:Skin tone - film vs. digital (not a debate))
Message from leicachris at worldnet.att.net (Christopher Williams) ([Leica] Re:Skin tone - film vs. digital (not a debate))