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Subject: [Leica] [was] Another Altered Photo / now WAY OT
From: walt at waltjohnson.com (Walt Johnson)
Date: Tue Aug 8 14:46:44 2006
References: <000601c6bb32$f47adf50$6601a8c0@asus930>

Hoppy

The old shape charge routine was supposedly bad juju as well. Small hole 
in armor but lots of metal zinging around inside the target.

G Hopkinson wrote:

>Adam, t'was meant to be a slightly light-hearted point not a literal figure.
>
>Hence scientific phrases such as "VERY bad juju". 
> 
>Just wrote the note off the top of my head, since Don seemed interested. It
>would be reasonable to agree that it is very unhealthy should you
>internalise it, for a very long time.
>No agendas involved except I was very OT;-).
>
>Cheers
>Hoppy
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org
>[mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
>Adam Bridge
>Sent: Wednesday, 9 August 2006 02:33
>To: Leica Users Group
>Subject: Re: RE: [Leica] [was] Another Altered Photo / now WAY OT
>
>Sigh - not BILLION years. Geesh. Come on guys at least TRY to get some
>half-life information correct.
>
>Here's a Wikipedia article on Deplete Uranium. You can search for more
>inflammatory or more sanguine articles with Google or your search
>engine of choice.
>
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_uranium>
>
>As a beta emitter U-238's decay chain isn't too bad since, as long as
>it's external to the body your skin will block the high-energy
>electrons emitted. Taken internally, however, it's more problamatical
>but not nearly as nasty as the alpha-emitters whose high-energy helium
>nuclii can do serious damage. (The most common source of alpha
>emission is radon gas which is a naturally occuring decay product
>found from a variety of natural sources, not to mention the decay
>chains of fission products. In areas with lots of granite, for
>instance, having a radon detector in your home would make a lot of
>sense.)
>
>Adam
>
>On 8/8/06, G Hopkinson <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
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>>Hang on Don.
>>This projectile has no magic burning through properties. It's all about
>>density vs cross section. Add that to high velocity and you have enormous
>>kinetic energy in the penetrator. The projectile will shed mass after
>>penetrating, plus the armour itself will add to the stream. It is also
>>pyrophoric so you would expect catastrophic heat along with the shrapnel
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>and
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>>spalled armour. An extremely lethal shower of very hot sharp material.
>>Regarding the radiation, it may be relatively benign to handle as you
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>noted,
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>>but the dust particles from a round impact are VERY bad juju should you
>>inhale them. That would be the least of your problems if you were sitting
>>within the target. Visiting it later would not be recommended either. It
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>may
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>>well be very toxic within the next few billion years or so.
>>Regarding the chain gun, it is a different but allied design to the rotary
>>barrel "gatling" designs. The principle benefits are simplicity and
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>extreme
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>>reliability.
>>
>>Cheers
>>Hoppy Gunny and M9 Guy
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org
>>[mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
>>Don Dory
>>Sent: Tuesday, 8 August 2006 12:59
>>To: Leica Users Group
>>Subject: Re: [Leica] [was] Another Altered Photo / now WAY OT
>>
>>Jerry,
>>>From a military perspective, depleted uranium is almost irresistable as
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>an
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>>anti-amour round.  The uranium literally burns through armour without the
>>extreme kinetic energy generally required.  Thus a 30mm chain gun can
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>become
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>>a heavy tank killer.  The military will not stop using it as it works too
>>well.  As I understand the spent rounds are primarily a Beta emitter so
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>not
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>>that hazardous as radioactive things go.
>>
>>Don
>>don.dory@gmail.com
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