Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/07/24

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Subject: [Leica] Taylor's GR Digital
From: faneuil at gmail.com (Eric Korenman)
Date: Mon Jul 24 09:35:43 2006
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I am tempted too by the GRD. Limitations of "28mm" hold me back.
I shot with a GR1V on and off over the years.
The 28mm was always a bit too wide for my tastes.

Seems we are looking for a digital Leica CLE.
A digital camera grail indeed.

Eric



On 7/24/06, Richard S. Taylor <r.s.taylor@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Tom P. - I haven't made any prints from these files yet but from what
> I've seen so far the noise is not a major issue though there are some
> limitations.  In color at ISO 1600 the noise is ugly as sin, but in
> B&W it's perfectly acceptable.  At 800 the color noise is OK.
>
> The visibility of the noise depends on the subject, too. In the shot
> of my son it's not an issue at all.  In the shot of the Vivian
> Beaumont, it catches my eye and I would be tempted to run that file
> through Noise Ninja if I was going to get serious about the image.  .
>
> This business of what's acceptable depends highly on your frame of
> reference and I think reviewers, now having seen such exceptional
> results at ISO 3200 in some cameras, think anything less is
> unacceptable, period.   Major mistake.  It all depends on the viewer,
> the size of the print, the expectations of the photographer and
> probably a few other things, too.
>
> You know, my first reaction to the camera, particularly after I
> snapped the optical finder on it, was to think of the old Model-O.
> It's tiny in comparison to the best cameras of the day, it uses much
> smaller "film," which is going to be relatively  grainy, but it seems
> to have good optics, is fast operating and different.  Let's just see
> what we can do with it!
>
> Now, if it just had interchangeable lenses...
>
> Dick
>
>
>
>
> >    Thank you, Richard, for sharing the GR Digital
> >photos.  I own the film camera counterpart, and
> >because I think it is wonderful I have been tempted to
> >try the digital model.  I was stopped, however, by a
> >review that said one starts to see ugly noise by ISO
> >200.  Your images seem to disprove that.  I see no
> >appreciable noise until ISO 800 and at that level, and
> >even at ISO 1600, the noise looks like the grain one
> >might expect with film of that speed -- not ugly at
> >all.  Given the other pictures you have taken and not
> >posted, do you agree noise is well controlled?
> >    Tom P.
> >
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>
> Dick
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In reply to: Message from etruscello at yahoo.com (Tom Pastorello) ([Leica] Taylor's GR Digital)