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Subject: [Leica] was: did I miss a fight? NOW snapshots and criticism
From: philippe.orlent at pandora.be (Philippe Orlent)
Date: Sat Jul 1 04:11:35 2006
References: <01ca01c69be1$c79140d0$6401a8c0@hal>

I've been following this thread, and even if it luckily died out ATM,  
I just ask myself: what are you so frustrated about, Chandos?



Op 30-jun-06, om 03:09 heeft Chandos Michael Brown het volgende  
geschreven:

> BS, Sonny,
>
> I well remember when I commented on a photo of yours, remarking  
> that the
> complexions of its subject were a bilious green, and your response  
> was that
> color balance was "subjective."  I realized then that those of us  
> who work
> at a calibrated workflow and actually care about this are wasting  
> our time
> talking to you.
>
> What I object to is the apparent assumption on your part that your
> "subjectivity" is somehow worthy of sustained attention.  In my  
> view it is
> not.  And believe me, I know how to use a delete key and a filter;  
> your
> "Friday Flowers" go instantly to the delete file.
>
> And where do you get off telling me, or anyone else for the matter,  
> what the
> LUG is and isn't?
>
> I don't much give a s*** why people come to your collections or why  
> they do
> it.
>
> As I've said before, by your standards any moderately successful
> pornographer is "great" photographer.
>
> Sonny, I've always been curious.  Do any black folk live in your  
> town?  They
> don't appear in your photographs. If I understand you correctly,  
> this means
> that you don't "like" them. What we *do* get a lot of are pre- 
> pubescent
> cheerleaders, and a lot of middle-class, middle-aged white folk  
> "swapping
> lies," as you once captioned a photograph.  How apt.
>
> What, exactly, do you think you're documenting, and why?
>
> And judging from the stuff you routinely post here, it's laughable  
> to learn
> that you consider yourself a critic of your own work.  God alone  
> knows what
> you throw away.
>
> Really, get a grip.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Chandos
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+chandos=cox.net@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+chandos=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
> SonC@aol.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 6:47 PM
> To: lug@leica-users.org
> Subject: [Leica] was: did I miss a fight? NOW snapshots and criticism
>
>
> In a message dated 6/29/2006 5:19:11 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> ricc@mindspring.com writes:
>
> Let he who is without snapshots cast the first stone, or at least
> stop posting them.
> ---------------------------------------
>
>
>
> I totally disagree. Sorry.  You know, I work in an archive with a   
> giant
> collection of photography.  We have some Ullmans and other good   
> stuff, but
> no one
> comes to us for that.  Movie makers, magazines, writers,  TV  
> producers,  all
>
> come to us for the pictures in our snapshot collection.  It is rich  
> with
> moments from the daily lives of people from this area.
>
> This is not an art list. This is not Streetphoto.  I see things and
> photograph them and show them.  If you like my work, look at it, if  
> you
> don't use the
> delete key.  I enjoy criticism, but believe me, even Chandos  is not a
> greater critic of my work than I am.
>
> I do not like criticism like, "too bad that when the explosion  
> happened
> there were some power lines obscuring the lovely clouds."  For  
> God's sake,
> when
> you talk about a shot, give pointers that someone can do something   
> about.
>
> For example, my monitor might be screwed up, and the color looks  
> just fine
> to me, but to someone else it sucks.  Tell me.  I have several   
> monitors
> available, and then I know that the one I'm editing on needs   
> attention.
>
> I try to put interesting shots online.  Not great art.  I am not   
> an artist.
>
> I don't have an artist's statement.  I take  pictures.  I sell  
> some. Some
> people think because I don't dig into the ugly  side of my town  
> that I am
> not
> documenting it.  I prefer to show what I  like, not what I hate.  I  
> did that
> too
> many years as a news photographer,  and it only makes me sad if  
> that's all I
>
> shoot.
>
> So, to finally answer what you said, I shoot hundreds of pictures  
> you never
>
> see. Some, no one but me will ever see.
>
> An example: My dear sweet wife, already in the first stages of  
> anesthesia
> before a major surgery this week.  Without makeup, in hospital  
> stuff, a
> lovely
> portrait of the woman I love in a moment that we are uncertain of our
> future.
>   She did OK, but I'll treasure that shot because I'll always   
> remember how
> I
> felt about her in those tense moments.
>
> Regards,
> Sonny
> http://www.sonc.com
> Natchitoches, Louisiana
> Oldest continuous  settlement in La Louisiane
> ?galit?, libert?,  crawfish
>
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In reply to: Message from chandos at cox.net (Chandos Michael Brown) ([Leica] was: did I miss a fight? NOW snapshots and criticism)