Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/06/15

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Subject: [Leica] AOS 5D full 35mm breakthrough
From: Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com (Frank Dernie)
Date: Thu Jun 15 11:58:11 2006
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I have taken a couple of portraits on RD1 and Noctilux, I was  
surprised they were all in focus! I bought a tri elmar earlier this  
year and use that a lot. I really do enjoy using the RD1 MUCH more  
than my EOS.
Frank

On 15 Jun, 2006, at 14:31, Don Dory wrote:

> Frank,
> This is just another opportunity to redesign the lens line for the  
> sensors.
>> From a business plan, get the digital body out, let the customers  
>> see the
> disadvantages of current glass on silicone, then offer a much  
> better lens
> selection for the new system.  Nothing is obsolete, you just have more
> choices now.  This is why the alleged new 18mm and wide Tri-Elmar  
> design
> will be coming; Leica can say that the new lenses will perform so much
> better...
>
> But with smaller sensors comes a need for fast glass for DOF  
> concerns.  I
> will very much want to see a Noctilux on the digital cameras.   
> Frank, I
> believe you have a Noctilux, any pictures at F1 on your RD-1?
>
> Don
> don.dory@gmail.com
>
>
> On 6/15/06, Frank Dernie <Frank.Dernie@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>> Rangefinder WA lenses are made to a design that is unsuited to
>> digital sensors. Even if the Canon sensor was used it would give
>> disappointing results with these lenses. I enjoy my 1.5 crop RD1 but
>> the sensor issues, whilst quasi correctable by software, are
>> blindingly obvious from some of the lenses even on this smaller
>> sensor. I wait with interest to see how much worse it is on the 1.33
>> sensor.
>> Reading between the lines I have gained the firm impression that
>> there is going to be a digital M because of customer demand/pressure
>> NOT because Leica thing it is a technically sound thing to do. I am
>> sure they will make their best efforts to make it as good as they
>> can, given the technical limitations. Lenses designed for reflex
>> cameras are considerably more suited to digital sensors - sadly.
>> Frank
>>
>> On 15 Jun, 2006, at 07:00, Afterswift@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> > If Canon could put out the AOS 5D full 35mm frame CMOS digital body
>> > for about
>> > $3000, there's no reason why Leica can't market a full frame
>> > digital M with a
>> > 24x36mm 35mm frame sensor.
>> > http://www.dpreview.com/news/0508/05082209canoneos5d.asp
>> >
>> > Bob
>> >
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