Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/02/04
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]All true, Doug. There is still a very valid question regarding price and value, if for no other reason than in this digital age we are not talking about a camera as a life-long investment, as we were with M or R. ___ Sent with SnapperMail www.snappermail.com ...... Original Message ....... On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 15:43:17 -0800 Douglas Herr <telyt@earthlink.net> wrote: "Ted, did you read the photo.net thread? Lots of example photos from working "photographers on the job. " "Doug Herr "Birdman of Sacramento "http://www.wildlightphoto.com " " "on 2/4/06 3:19 PM, Ted Grant at tedgrant@shaw.ca wrote: " "> B. D. pointed out: "> Subject: Re: [Leica] DMR mk II ? ">>>>> Let's see - 20D - $1300 for entire camera. DMR, $5-6K for the back ">>>>> alone - $8-9K for the camera. It bloody well better make the 20D look ">>>>> like a Kodak Brownie. Or am I missing something here? ;-)<<<< "> "> Hi B.D., "> To some degree this whole DMR thing is another peeing in the wind thing the "> LUG get's on when a new piece of gear becomes available as we've seen during "> the past half dozen years or so. "> "> Be it lenses, new bodies, digital or otherwise, you name it and everyone has "> an opinion. The R8 for example became a collection of ridiculous aspersions "> by members who'd only seen pictures of it or had one in hand for less than 5 "> minutes. "> "> The DMR falls into exactly the same category. We, us, most everyone has some "> kind of comment good, bad or ugly about it. But what we haven't seen yet is "> anything from a real time working on the job assignment (unless I missed it) "> and I don't mean grasslands, nice looking trees, happy snaps of the local "> school or church. We haven't seen results of it during a news documentary or "> event during the crash & burns situations of life. "> "> What we have seen and hear comments about are "the fineness of detail, "> colour renditions and the "things of greater meaning to rock & fern folks "> with lots of time for just the right conditions." "> "> I don't doubt it isn't good, but many of the things being said fall into the "> usual digital jargon of techie stuff of little meaning to working "> photojournalists who require higher sensitivity settings. We've been there "> sort of, but it still hasn't answered my point, although George L. was close "> on dial twiddling.;-) "> "> It's beginning to look like a fruitless collection of mine is bigger, better "> than yours. "> "> And yes for the kind of money, I know the value to work ratio is meaningless "> to a person who can pop for a DMR, R8 or 9 without a dollar return thought. "> But until I see 20D prints off my 2200 better than we produce now, I mean "> lots and lots better big time then I'm reserving judgement. "> "> Although I did have a 5D in hand, shot some frames, nothing more than "> people in the shop and on the street I'm favourably impressed and for what a "> DMR costs I could have 2 5D bodies and the use of all my Leica glass "> shooting full 35mm frame. ;-) And keep the 20D as a back-up. ;-) "> "> Then I'd be back to my "using three bodies" at the same time to shoot my "> assignments and other work.;-) "> "> Makes a fella think a bit more about digi life at an affordable price may "> not be so bad after all. ;-) "> "> ted. "> "> "> _______________________________________________ "> Leica Users Group. "> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information " " "_______________________________________________ "Leica Users Group.