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Subject: [Leica] DMR mk II ?
From: bd_colen at harvard.edu (B. D. Colen)
Date: Sat Feb 4 16:54:30 2006
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All true, Doug. There is still a very valid question regarding price and 
value, if for no other reason than in this digital age we are not talking 
about a camera as a life-long investment, as we were with M or R.
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On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 15:43:17 -0800 Douglas Herr <telyt@earthlink.net> wrote:
"Ted, did you read the photo.net thread?  Lots of example photos from 
working
"photographers on the job.
"
"Doug Herr
"Birdman of Sacramento
"http://www.wildlightphoto.com
"
"
"on 2/4/06 3:19 PM, Ted Grant at tedgrant@shaw.ca wrote:
"
"> B. D. pointed out:
"> Subject: Re: [Leica] DMR mk II ?
">>>>> Let's see - 20D - $1300 for entire camera. DMR, $5-6K for the back
">>>>> alone - $8-9K for the camera. It bloody well better make the 20D look
">>>>> like a Kodak Brownie. Or am I missing something here? ;-)<<<<
"> 
"> Hi B.D.,
"> To some degree this whole DMR thing is another peeing in the wind thing 
the
"> LUG get's on when a new piece of gear becomes available as we've seen 
during
"> the past half dozen years or so.
"> 
"> Be it lenses, new bodies, digital or otherwise, you name it and everyone 
has
"> an opinion. The R8 for example became a collection of ridiculous 
aspersions
"> by members who'd only seen pictures of it or had one in hand for less 
than 5
"> minutes.
"> 
"> The DMR falls into exactly the same category. We, us, most everyone has 
some
"> kind of comment good, bad or ugly about it. But what we haven't seen yet 
is
"> anything from a real time working on the job assignment (unless I missed 
it)
"> and I don't mean grasslands, nice looking trees, happy snaps of the local
"> school or church. We haven't seen results of it during a news 
documentary or
"> event during the crash & burns situations of life.
"> 
"> What we have seen and hear comments about are "the fineness of detail,
"> colour renditions and the "things of greater meaning to rock & fern folks
"> with lots of time for just the right conditions."
"> 
"> I don't doubt it isn't good, but many of the things being said fall into 
the
"> usual digital jargon of techie stuff of little meaning to working
"> photojournalists who require higher sensitivity settings. We've been 
there
"> sort of, but it still hasn't answered my point, although George L. was 
close
"> on dial twiddling.;-)
"> 
"> It's beginning to look like a fruitless collection of mine is bigger, 
better
"> than yours.
"> 
"> And yes for the kind of money, I know the value to work ratio is 
meaningless
"> to a person who can pop for a DMR, R8 or 9 without a dollar return 
thought.
"> But until I see 20D prints off my 2200 better than we produce now, I mean
"> lots and lots better big time then I'm reserving judgement.
"> 
"> Although I did have a 5D in hand, shot some frames, nothing more than
"> people in the shop and on the street I'm favourably impressed and for 
what a
"> DMR costs I could have 2 5D bodies and the use of all my Leica glass
"> shooting full 35mm frame. ;-) And keep the 20D as a back-up. ;-)
"> 
"> Then I'd be back to my "using three bodies" at the same time to shoot my
"> assignments and other work.;-)
"> 
"> Makes a fella think a bit more about digi life at an affordable price may
"> not be so bad after all. ;-)
"> 
"> ted. 
"> 
"> 
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