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Subject: [Leica] DMR mk II ?
From: bdcolen at comcast.net (B. D. Colen)
Date: Sat Feb 4 11:26:20 2006

Let's see - 20D - $1300 for entire camera. DMR, $5-6K for the back alone -
$8-9K for the camera. It bloody well better make the 20D look like a Kodak
Brownie. Or am I missing something here? ;-)


On 2/4/06 2:13 PM, "Nick Roberts" <nickbroberts@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> I actually agree with Peter - from what I've seen, the
> DMR is certainly capable of better results than the
> 20D, at least until the ISO runs out...
> 
> Now, compare it to a 5D or 1Ds Mk II and it might well
> be a different issue....
> 
> Nick
> 
> --- pwerner@bluewin.ch wrote:
> 
>> Didier,
>> 
>>> On comparison shots found in the web, it seemed to
>> me that the
>>> colortones of the DMR looked a bit "warmer" than
>> those of 
>>> the Canon 20d, but that was just my personal
>> impression. 
>>> It could have to do with the R lenses' coating
>>> more than with the sensor.
>> 
>> May I disagree. For a certain time I had the 20d,
>> the Fuji S2 Pro
>> with Nikon glass  and the DMR and I could compare
>> myself. 
>> These are supposed to be good DLSR cameras.
>> 
>> The differences are there and they are not minor.
>> Not only as far
>> as skin tones are concerned, but also for dynamic
>> range and color
>> fidelity.
>> 
>> Before deciding to buy the DMR, I could test it for
>> a week in Germany
>> last May,  still with a beta firmware. I was
>> convinced by comparing
>> the results I was getting from the three cameras (in
>> the case of 
>> the 20D by using the same lenses as on the DMR).
>> 
>> One of my most critical tests is the capture of
>> orchids. 
>> The color of dark red orchids is very difficult to
>> catch
>> realistically. The results with both the Fuji S2 Pro
>> and the 20D
>> were unsatisfactory; the results with the DMR were
>> excellent.
>> 
>> You do not have do believe my words.
>> 
>> I have posted some orchid photos (Canon and Fuji) on
>> 
>> 
> http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00BflF
>> 
>> and some Leica ones on
>> 
>> 
> http://www.leica-camera.com/discus_e/messages/3/180750.html?1132869128
>> and 
>> 
> http://www.leica-camera.com/discus/messages/23/108215.html?1132871072
>> 
>> Look at the differences yourself.
>> 
>> I know it is hopeless to convince most typical Canon
>> owners, they 
>> are loyal to their brand (after all, who want to
>> admit he has spent
>> a lot of money for an inferior product?), but these
>> pictures might 
>> be helpful for people who have not yet made up their
>> minds.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Peter
>> 
>> PS: more Leica orchid photos on www.orchids.mu
>> 
>> 
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