Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/01/03
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Good man! :-) On 1/3/06, Robert Meier <robertmeier@usjet.net> wrote: > > Daniel, > > Thanks. Mike has published my pictures a couple of times before, > illustrating one thing or another. This time he just used this shot as a > favor because I wanted to get my four grandsons into print. > > Bob > > > It sure is! I took it for granted that it was one of Mike Johnston's > > pictures to illustrate the lens he raves about in the article. > > > > Congratulations! > > > > Daniel > > > > On 1/3/06, Robert Meier <robertmeier@usjet.net> wrote: > >> > >> Daniel, > >> > >> The December issue of Black and White Photography also has one of my > >> pictures in it, on page 51. > >> > >> Bob > >> > >> > >> > >> > Philippe, > >> > > >> > Have you ever seen the magazine "Black and White Photography" from the > >> > UK? > >> > > >> > http://www.gmcpubs.com > >> > > >> > In the current, December 2005, issue there is an article about fine > >> > grain developers. They run through the merits and disadvantages of > >> > Microdol-X, Adox ADX, Calbe A49/Adox ATM49 (both are Agfa Atomal), > >> > Tetenal Ultrafin Plus and Mac LP-Cube XS. > >> > > >> > Most of what has been said about Microdol-X has already been said > >> > here. > >> > > >> > I don't know where the idea comes from that Tri-X is grainy. The 400TX > >> > is one of Kodak's most fine-grained films (TMX probably beats it out, > >> > but I doubt if much else does). Don't give up on the obvious before > >> > you dive into esoteric concoctions. Diluted D76 or Xtol will get you a > >> > long way. My print for round 4 of the print exchange was Tri-X and D76 > >> > 1:1. I don't think it is grainy. > >> > > >> > Best, > >> > Daniel > >> > > >> > > >> > On 1/3/06, Philippe Orlent <philippe.orlent@pandora.be> wrote: > >> >> Thank you all for the input. > >> >> > >> >> But concluding after my initial question: > >> >> 1) Better don't combine Tri-X with Microdol X because the developer > >> >> counteracts on the speed and grain of the emulsion, thus on the > >> >> character of the film. > >> >> 2) But if you do, expose the Tri-X at ISO 200, dilute the Microdol 1 > >> >> to 3, and search the web (f.i. on http://www.digitaltruth.com/ > >> >> devchart.html) for correct development times since Kodak's times > >> >> stink. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Op 3-jan-06, om 17:11 heeft Jeffery Smith het volgende geschreven: > >> >> > >> >> > I've seen a few respectable pictures taken with Tri-X and Rodinal. > >> >> > I've > >> >> > never ventured into that combo, but I may try it using a bit of > >> >> > overdevelopment like you suggest. It is next to impossible to get > >> >> > Rodinal > >> >> > down here for a decent price. I think I'll try Photographer's > >> >> > Formulary > >> >> > generic Rodinal. > >> >> > > >> >> > Jeffery Smith > >> >> > New Orleans, LA > >> >> > http://www.400tx.com > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > -----Original Message----- > >> >> > From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org > >> >> > [mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of > >> >> > Dan > >> >> > States > >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 8:16 AM > >> >> > To: lug@leica-users.org > >> >> > Subject: RE: [Leica] tri-x and microdol-x > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Microdol x used at recommended times does reduce film speed, but > >> >> > when shot > >> >> > at 250 and developement is extended it produces proper negative > >> >> > density. I > >> >> > have found that much of what I used to call poor resolution was > >> >> > actually > >> >> > underdevelopement. Tri-x needs to be fully developed or the > >> >> > sharpness > >> >> > impression is reduced. The problem with high accutance developers > >> >> > like > >> >> > FX-39 and Ilfosol s is the granularity increase is very > >> >> > unattractive at > >> >> > greater than 5x enlargement. (FX-39 is really not even recomended > >> >> > for high > >> >> > speed film.) > >> >> > > >> >> > Considering that maximum resolution on hand held photography is > >> >> > rarely more > >> >> > than 60lp Tri-x is capable of all the sharpness you could need. > >> >> > The > >> >> > reduction of grain appearance is, in my opinion, more important to > >> >> > final > >> >> > image quality with that film. > >> >> > > >> >> > So far I have found Kodak's rec development times to be total > >> >> > crap. Nearly > >> >> > all thier films require 15-30% more developement time than their > >> >> > website > >> >> > states. > >> >> > > >> >> > In the end, you should try microdol, d76, xtol, DDX, rodinal and > >> >> > other > >> >> > developers. They are not expensive, and you will be able to find > >> >> > what works > >> >> > > >> >> > best for you...plus, it's fun! > >> >> > > >> >> > best wishes > >> >> > Dan > >> >> > > >> >> >> From: "Jeffery Smith" <jsmith342@cox.net> > >> >> >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> > >> >> >> To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org> > >> >> >> Subject: RE: [Leica] tri-x and microdol-x > >> >> >> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 07:09:45 -0600 > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I found that the grain-dissolving action of Microdol-X left very > >> >> >> little > >> >> >> snap > >> >> >> in the images. It even made Panatomic-X look bad. My advice would > >> >> >> be....don't use. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Jeffery Smith > >> >> >> New Orleans, LA > >> >> >> http://www.400tx.com > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> -----Original Message----- > >> >> >> From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org > >> >> >> [mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf > >> >> >> Of > >> >> >> Philippe > >> >> >> Orlent > >> >> >> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 3:40 PM > >> >> >> To: LUG Group > >> >> >> Subject: [Leica] tri-x and microdol-x > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Just bought both to see how they combine. > >> >> >> But having never worked with either: are there things that I > >> >> >> should > >> >> >> know? Do's and don'ts? > >> >> >> Push or pull? > >> >> >> Dilute or not? > >> >> >> ... > >> >> >> I would be very grateful if the combined knowledge base of the LUG > >> >> >> would help me on this one. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> >> Leica Users Group. > >> >> >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > >> >> >> information > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> >> Leica Users Group. > >> >> >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > >> >> >> information > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > _______________________________________________ > >> >> > Leica Users Group. > >> >> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > >> >> > information > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > _______________________________________________ > >> >> > Leica Users Group. > >> >> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > >> >> > information > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> Leica Users Group. > >> >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Leica Users Group. > >> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >