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Subject: [Leica] Salgado' s (now standards)
From: cartersn at nsula.edu (Sonny Carter)
Date: Mon Dec 5 18:43:30 2005
References: <186F0BE020A14A4B85D1D95115976D38018F7D7E@exchbackend2.nsula.edu> <A01A569F-D226-4E6C-AC9F-080064999714@charter.net>

I've gotten to the point that I don't know your point.




-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+cartersn=nsula.edu@leica-users.org on behalf of Slobodan 
Dimitrov
Sent: Mon 12/5/2005 5:55 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Salgado' s (now standards)
 
Point well taken.
But, print media does hold to those 'guidelines' rigidly.

Slobodan Dimitrov
Studio G-8,
Angels Gate Cultural Center
http://sdimitrovphoto.com





On Dec 5, 2005, at 2:05 PM, Sonny Carter wrote:

>
> Many professional journalists do not hold degrees in Journalism, Rita
> Braver of CBS holds a Political Science Degree.  Charles Osgood, in
> Economics, as does Martha Teichner.  Dan Rather has his degree in
> Journalism. Rush Limbaugh (heh) did not go to college.
>
> When I was a TV News Producer, we had young graduate reporters who
> seemed to have never studied AP Style.  One time, a reporter  
> brought me
> a piece of copy, and I told him that if he could diagram that lead
> sentence, then I'd let it go to air.  He re-wrote the sentence.
>
> While no one enforces the use of the AP stylebook, (a goodly number of
> shops  are not AP members,)  it is more than convenient to have
> standards spelled out.  You'll find AP Style differs very little from
> Strunk and White.
>
>
> Sonny Carter
> http://www.sonc.com
> Digital Imaging Specialist
> Cammie G. Henry Research Center
> Northwestern State University of Louisiana
> Natchitoches, LA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+cartersn=nsula.edu@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+cartersn=nsula.edu@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
> Slobodan Dimitrov
> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 3:36 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Salgado' s work
>
> I gladly stand corrected. However, try graduating with a degree in  
> print
> journalism without following AP's published guidelines.
>
> Slobodan Dimitrov
> Studio G-8,
> Angels Gate Cultural Center
> http://sdimitrovphoto.com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 5, 2005, at 1:23 PM, Sonny Carter wrote:
>
>> AP is a cooperative, not a corporation. TV Stations, radio  
>> stations or
>
>> newspapers are members of AP and pay fees to use stuff, and are paid
>> fees when they supply news pieces.
>>
>>
>> Sonny Carter
>> http://www.sonc.com,
>>
>>
>>
>> Digital Imaging Specialist
>> Cammie G. Henry Research Center
>> Northwestern State University of Louisiana Natchitoches, LA
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: lug-bounces+cartersn=nsula.edu@leica-users.org
>> [mailto:lug-bounces+cartersn=nsula.edu@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
>> B.
>> D. Colen
>> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 3:16 PM
>> To: Leica Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Salgado' s work
>>
>> Absolutely not, the whore agreed.;-) However...not textbooks,
>> Slobodan, just a manual of style. And given that it's used by most
>> newspapers, because they belong to the AP and use its copy, and is
>> used by many other publications as well, it makes sense to use it  
>> in J
>
>> schools.
>> Hardly corporate control though, in the sense that you're implying.
>>
>>
>> On 12/5/05 1:41 PM, "Slobodan Dimitrov" <s.dimitrov@charter.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey, there's nothing wrong with a journalist being on the take.  
>>> Oops,
>
>>> I meant to say...in participating with a product manufacture's
>>> informational campaign.
>>> After all, don't they have to pass college courses in journalism by
>>> using textbooks and guidelines printed by a corporation called AP.
>>> So, why stop at graduation.
>>>
>>> Slobodan Dimitrov
>>> Studio G-8,
>>> Angels Gate Cultural Center
>>> http://sdimitrovphoto.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 5, 2005, at 8:04 AM, Ted Grant wrote:
>>>
>>>> Slobodan Dimitrov offered:
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Salgado' s work
>>>>>>> Funny how that works.
>>>>> When a photographer thinks a project is important enough, they  
>>>>> go a
>>
>>>>> up a format, and down a technology.<<
>>>>
>>>> Hi Slobodan,
>>>>
>>>> I'd almost put money on the table he's received financial  
>>>> support of
>
>>>> some kind to use other than the Leica.
>>>>
>>>> ted
>>>> Ted Grant Photography Limited
>>>> 1817 Feltham Road
>>>> Victoria BC  V8N 2A4
>>>> 250-477-2156
>>>>
>>>>
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In reply to: Message from cartersn at nsula.edu (Sonny Carter) ([Leica] Salgado' s (now standards))
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