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Subject: [Leica] Inspired by a film
From: cochranpr at mac.com (David Cochran)
Date: Sat Nov 5 13:37:18 2005
References: <ILENJKCCOJOKJFHFEFACMEHCDKAA.luisripoll@telefonica.net>

Hola Luis,
Pleasantville is a movie that came out a few years ago. It is in Black  
& White and slowly turns to color.
Its like slide film badly stored but the other way around.   ;-)
Good story too.


paz

David

Its like slide film badly stored but the other way around.
On Nov 5, 2005, at 5:07 PM, Luis Ripoll wrote:

> Sorry, but are you talking about Pleasantville, a city in N.Y.  
> Estate?, I've
> been there two times.
>
> Saludos cordiales,
> Luis
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org]En  
> nombre de
> Adam Bridge
> Enviado el: s?bado, 05 de noviembre de 2005 18:40
> Para: Leica Users Group
> Asunto: Re: [Leica] Inspired by a film
>
> Boy, I guess they do. I went back and looked at the B&W in
> "Pleasantville" which had very much a video quality on my  DVD and a
> grainlessness that made it much less compelling. I know they shot it
> in color, of course, so that's what I sort of used as a reference
> point for thinking it was shot in native black and white. One thing
> was clear: the black and white was marvelously uniform throughout the
> film - I can remember films from my childhood where from reel to reel
> the picture went from gray to sepia to pinkish - I don't remember the
> name of the film but it was set aboard a freighter at sea.
>
> Adam
>
> On 11/5/05, Philippe Orlent <philippe.orlent@pandora.be> wrote:
>> Miracles happen in the colorgrading and post-grading phase these days.
>>
>>
>>> From: Adam Bridge <abridge@gmail.com>
>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 21:55:40 -0800
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Inspired by a film
>>>
>>> Well, drat, I stand corrected - so is the film grain done in post or
>>> is it the nature of the color stock they used? However they did it,
>>> it's VERY effective although, I suppose, it could easily have been
>>> done in the transfer to the B&W print.
>>>
>>> I'm disappointed but hey, at least they made a B&W film that's very
>>> very good and maybe we'll get more.
>>>
>>> ab
>>>
>>> On 11/4/05, bill harting <vintagebill@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>> Filmmaker magazine reports this production information for "Good
> Night..."
>>>>
>>>> Production Format: 35mm.
>>>> Camera: Two Panavision Millenniums with 11:1 zoom lenses.
>>>> Film Stock: Kodak Vision2 500T 5218.
>>>> Editing System: Avid Media Composer Version 11.
>>>> Color Correction: Autodesk Fire system to conform the entire movie,
>>>> including the archival clips; density grade performed with da Vinci  
>>>> 2K
> Plus
>>>> technology; film-out via ARRI laser recorders onto Kodak 2302,
>>>> polyester-based, B&W release stock.
>>>> -
>>>> Kodak 5218 is a color negative film, 2302 is B&W
>>>>
>>>> bill h
>>>>
>>>> (Great colors in the film. The period evocation is excellent.)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "feli" <feli2@earthlink.net>
>>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>; "Leica Users Group"
>>>> <lug@leica-users.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 8:09 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Inspired by a film
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 4, 2005, at 8:23 PM, Adam Bridge wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd love to know the film stock they used. Those great Panavision
>>>>>> lenses were used to great advantage and the cinematographer  
>>>>>> certainly
>>>>>> understands how to use black and white. Wow - talk about seeing  
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> PEOPLE.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If it was shot on a true black and white stock, it probably was  
>>>>> Kodak
>>>>> 5222,
>>>>> which is similar to Super-XX (or double XX?). 5222 has been around  
>>>>> for
>>>>> decades
>>>>> and is a real classic. It looks absolutely stunning, when  
>>>>> projected.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some people use 'short ends' of this stock for bulkloading 135  
>>>>> format
>>>>> cartridges.
>>>>> If I rememeber correctly you can develop it in D76, but I think  
>>>>> Kodak
>>>>> recommends
>>>>> D-19. 5222 is a little grainier than Tri-X, but has as enormous
> exposure
>>>>> range and
>>>>> can easily be pushed. It looks a little like vintage 1950's/60  
>>>>> Tri-X.
> I
>>>>> think Tom A.
>>>>> has some experience doing this.
>>>>>
>>>>> "The Man Who Wasn't There' was shot on color negative and then  
>>>>> printed
> on
>>>>> black and white
>>>>> title print stock. the film is gorgeous, but to my eyes, it still
> looks
>>>>> like color stock turned b/w.
>>>>>
>>>>> I haven't seen the film, yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if 'Good
> Night
>>>>> and Good Luck' was
>>>>> shot with period lenses from Cooke, Bausch&Lomb or Arri/Schneider.
>>>>> Visually it's the difference
>>>>> between a Summicron DR and the current version.
>>>>>
>>>>> feli
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>>>> ----
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>>>>> -----------
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>>>>> www.elanphotos.com
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