Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/11/05
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I sure looked like b&w film to my eye: I kept admiring the shadow detail and the highlight control though of course I know commercial movie production is all digital management these days, but the effect was to suggest and enviable level of mastery of light and film development. Which one should also take for granted in professional work. A number of movie (internet) sources seemed (mistakenly, apparently) to think it was shot on b&w stock. bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam Bridge" <abridge@gmail.com> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org> Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [Leica] Inspired by a film > Boy, I guess they do. I went back and looked at the B&W in > "Pleasantville" which had very much a video quality on my DVD and a > grainlessness that made it much less compelling. I know they shot it > in color, of course, so that's what I sort of used as a reference > point for thinking it was shot in native black and white. One thing > was clear: the black and white was marvelously uniform throughout the > film - I can remember films from my childhood where from reel to reel > the picture went from gray to sepia to pinkish - I don't remember the > name of the film but it was set aboard a freighter at sea. > > Adam > > On 11/5/05, Philippe Orlent <philippe.orlent@pandora.be> wrote: >> Miracles happen in the colorgrading and post-grading phase these days. >> >> >> > From: Adam Bridge <abridge@gmail.com> >> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> >> > Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 21:55:40 -0800 >> > To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> >> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Inspired by a film >> > >> > Well, drat, I stand corrected - so is the film grain done in post or >> > is it the nature of the color stock they used? However they did it, >> > it's VERY effective although, I suppose, it could easily have been >> > done in the transfer to the B&W print. >> > >> > I'm disappointed but hey, at least they made a B&W film that's very >> > very good and maybe we'll get more. >> > >> > ab >> > >> > On 11/4/05, bill harting <vintagebill@verizon.net> wrote: >> >> Filmmaker magazine reports this production information for "Good >> >> Night..." >> >> >> >> Production Format: 35mm. >> >> Camera: Two Panavision Millenniums with 11:1 zoom lenses. >> >> Film Stock: Kodak Vision2 500T 5218. >> >> Editing System: Avid Media Composer Version 11. >> >> Color Correction: Autodesk Fire system to conform the entire movie, >> >> including the archival clips; density grade performed with da Vinci 2K >> >> Plus >> >> technology; film-out via ARRI laser recorders onto Kodak 2302, >> >> polyester-based, B&W release stock. >> >> - >> >> Kodak 5218 is a color negative film, 2302 is B&W >> >> >> >> bill h >> >> >> >> (Great colors in the film. The period evocation is excellent.) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "feli" <feli2@earthlink.net> >> >> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>; "Leica Users Group" >> >> <lug@leica-users.org> >> >> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 8:09 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Inspired by a film >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> On Nov 4, 2005, at 8:23 PM, Adam Bridge wrote: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> I'd love to know the film stock they used. Those great Panavision >> >>>> lenses were used to great advantage and the cinematographer >> >>>> certainly >> >>>> understands how to use black and white. Wow - talk about seeing the >> >>>> PEOPLE. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> If it was shot on a true black and white stock, it probably was Kodak >> >>> 5222, >> >>> which is similar to Super-XX (or double XX?). 5222 has been around >> >>> for >> >>> decades >> >>> and is a real classic. It looks absolutely stunning, when projected. >> >>> >> >>> Some people use 'short ends' of this stock for bulkloading 135 format >> >>> cartridges. >> >>> If I rememeber correctly you can develop it in D76, but I think Kodak >> >>> recommends >> >>> D-19. 5222 is a little grainier than Tri-X, but has as enormous >> >>> exposure >> >>> range and >> >>> can easily be pushed. It looks a little like vintage 1950's/60 Tri-X. >> >>> I >> >>> think Tom A. >> >>> has some experience doing this. >> >>> >> >>> "The Man Who Wasn't There' was shot on color negative and then >> >>> printed on >> >>> black and white >> >>> title print stock. the film is gorgeous, but to my eyes, it still >> >>> looks >> >>> like color stock turned b/w. >> >>> >> >>> I haven't seen the film, yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if 'Good >> >>> Night >> >>> and Good Luck' was >> >>> shot with period lenses from Cooke, Bausch&Lomb or Arri/Schneider. >> >>> Visually it's the difference >> >>> between a Summicron DR and the current version. >> >>> >> >>> feli >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> ----------- >> >>> Feli di Giorgio feli2@earthlink.net >> >>> www.elanphotos.com >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Leica Users Group. >> >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Leica Users Group. >> >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Leica Users Group. >> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information