[Leica] B. D. PAWS with a $699 DSLR

[bdcolen at comcast.net (B. D. Colen)]

For whatever it's worth - the Olympus E-500 isn't much bigger than the C8080
that Gary is touting. And it weighs less than even the little Pentax DSLR.


On 10/25/05 2:19 PM, "Ted Grant" <tedgrant@shaw.ca> wrote:

> Gary Todoroff offered:
> 
>> <<From: B. D. Colen
>> <<
>> <<Again, the couple was shot from my lap for Gd's sake - I'd hardly be
>> surprised if the point of focus was off. ;-)
> 
> Gary said:
>> Which is EXACTLY why I am sticking to my guns that the whole DSLR approach
>> for digital photography is WACKY for LUGgers! My 8 megapixel Olympus C8080
>> is the size of a Leica M, the flip screen LCD lets me shoot from my lap,
>> and
>> I'm not in the horse and buggy days of having to always put my eye up to a
>> viewfinder with a silly mirror and focus requirements. On top of that,
>> most
>> stupid DSLRs are getting close to the size of an old 4x5 press camera - at
>> least that's where all the "pro" models seem to be headed - HUGE!.
>> 
>> When is someone going to put the smarts and quality of the latest digital
>> sensor technology into a pro camera that is not the equivalent of the
>> first
>> motor cars with the front guard to keep the horses from kicking mud on the
>> passengers! The current DSLR approach still seems to believe the camera is
>> going to hold FILM!
>> 
>> Worst of all, Leica doesn't seem to get it. They put the majority of their
>> digital eggs into the what? A DSLR!!!! Just think - all those Leica M
>> lenses
>> out their just waiting for a professional digital body that makes sense in
>> the worlds of photojournalism and candid photography.<<<
> 
> Hi Gary,
> Each time I've been told to get the best out of my Leica R lenses I should
> move up to a full frame Canon DSLR because I'm already using the 20D and
> having extremely fine results.  However each time I've looked at them I'm
> scared off as the size is as you say... "the olden days of using a 4X5 
> Speed
> Graphic" or damn near it! :-(  Been there and done it so long ago for so
> long I sure as hell don't want to buy into it again.
> 
> Heck I'm accustomed to motor driven R8's and these are big enough, that
> carrying 3 of them and a couple or 3 M7's it gets a tad tiring at the end 
> of
> the day. So why buy into huge digitals when as you  say.........
> 
> " > Worst of all, Leica doesn't seem to get it. They put the majority of
> their digital eggs into the what? >> A DSLR!!!! <<<
> 
> On one hand I can see them doing that because of the R cameras already in
> photographers hands who want to continue using their R lenses. But given
> it's just an add on piece, even though by all counts it works quite well,
> it's just that an add on bit at a cost beyond ability of many shooters,
> Particularly when for about half the cost there are many excellent digi
> cameras available (20D) an others that with adapters can use leica glass. 
> OK
> not at full frame, but at whatever size they produce excellent quality
> capture and printed images. Certainly with a Leica look in sharpness and
> contrast.
> 
> But they're missing the biggest market.... "an M size camera to use all
> those incredible M lenses and M body owners in the world." No not everybody
> would switch, but I bet Leica would sell more of a digital M size Leica in
> the blink of an eye than all the DMR pieces put together.
> 
> It's a fault squarely on the shoulders of Leica management as over the 
> years
> they've always been head in the sand outlook even way back in the days 
> of...
> "The SLR is a fad and it'll never go anywhere and photographers who know
> quality will always buy a Leica range finder camera!" Yeah right and where
> are they today?
> 
> Out behind the out house sucking the hind tit because they never 
> illustrated
> a "modern day vision" and always believed the world didn't change from the
> '30's when Leica was king!
> 
> Rant off! However I expect many will not agree. So be it, but if I were
> wrong then we'd all own a new M-digi 8! ;-) Right? ;-)
> 
> So Gary take that to the LHSA get together. :-)  Please say hi to the gang
> arriving today.
> 
> ted
> 
> 
> 
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