Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/10/21

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Subject: [Leica] Re: Inkjet print life
From: bdcolen at comcast.net (B. D. Colen)
Date: Fri Oct 21 11:35:00 2005

For what ever it's worth - I've had no fading with the HP black and white
prints - on their premium plus paper - with prints exposed to direct, bright
sunlight. Like Ben, however, I have had disastrous results using the Ilford
Pearl paper with the HP inks. I tend to believe the longevity estimates - as
long as one is using the recommended paper and ink combo.

On 10/21/05 2:05 PM, "Benjamin Marks" <benmarks2005@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have found that Jon Cone's original (Sundance) carbon inksets fade/warm
> initially, but are pretty stable after their initial fade. I am currently
> experimenting with his newer Peizo-ICC warmtone inkset on acid-free paper.
> There is a photo shop here in Burlington, VT which has had one of these
> new-ink prints taped in a window for a year with no noticeable fading.
> Glossy paper is still not an option with Cone's inks.
>  I have had wildly varying results with HP's inksets. On HP Premium Plus
> paper, I have seen no noticeable fade under non-glass display conditions
> over the past year. But combining the HP inks with Costco's Kirkland glossy
> paper and with Ilford's pearl paper has been disastrous. Prints fading to
> yellow/green after only a few weeks.
>  I would regard _ANY_ longevity claims from a printer/ink manufacturer with
> suspicion.
>  This variability and lack of standards is one of the real drawbacks of
> digital as opposed to silver-based prints, in my mind. When I make a silver
> print, I know that print quality will be consistent, at least over the next
> 20 years. I know it because I have seen it; and the technology is quite
> stable. With inkjet who knows. Even if you hit on an ink and paper combo
> that you think works for you, it will probably be replaced by something
> later and greater within five years (given the short product cycle in this
> still-new industry).
>  I'm sure that there are those for whom the end product is not a print. For
> me, it still is though.
>  Ben
> 
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