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Subject: [Leica] FW: Photojournalists Covering Katrina Fall Victim To Growing Violence, Chaos
From: zoeica1 at yahoo.com (Chris Williams)
Date: Fri Sep 2 09:36:19 2005

Well the gangs in New Orleans only know mass murder. Get rid of them and the 
situation is at least a little easier.
 
If anyone has ever been in the projects of New Orleans, you'd see what I'm 
saying. 
 
It was so bad 11 yrs when we first moved here that the military was 
threatening to move in to stop violence. Chief Pennigton restored allot of 
order by kicking out the corrupt police. He moved on  2yrs ago to Atlanta. 
Then murders started going back up. Sometimes 3 or 4 a night within blocks 
of each other. The city thought moving some projects would help. Some were 
moved to NO East and Slidell. Guess what, Slidell crime when skyrocket.
 
I can tell you in my area that when they moved the projects out, our crime 
went way down, more shops opened and walking around at night became 
something we could do. I used to have to watch out for our house and car 
after Mardi Gras parades because gangs would knock out windows. Police would 
have to escort them back to the projects.
 
If they don't care for human life, why should we care about them?
 
By the way, Bush had to spend 30 minutes in AL posing for photo ops??? Gimme 
a fecking break. and they say they are in a hurry.
 
7 Minutes during 9/11, 30 minutes for 2 million displaced.
 
Chris


Chris Saganich <chs2018@med.cornell.edu> wrote:
Oh yea that is a solution which has never been tried. How simple. I'm 
always amazed at how little we Americans understand about our own 
society. Such blindness will never make us strong, or help us solve 
problems in any other way but mass murder. Go for it Chris. Get out there 
and make a difference.

Chris

At 08:40 AM 9/2/2005, you wrote:
>The Ward Gangs in N.O. are heavily armed, always have been. We're talking 
>AK-47s, Uzis, etc. They do not care for human lives. Even before this 
>photographers would be risking their lives going into project areas. I've 
>seen coroner photos for years in New Orleans.
>
>It's not worth it to risk your life down there. Though I feel sorry for 
>the vast majority of poor still stuck in New Orleans, these project people 
>are not worth it. Just like in Iraq, the only way to get rid of insurgency 
>is to kill them, or get out and save yourself.
>
>Even the NOPD friends I know would kill them given the chance. And these 
>are black friends saying this.
>
>Chris
>New Orleans
>
>
>
>Scott McLoughlin wrote:
>I wonder if the Toronto and NYT jounalists were shooting discrete MP's
>and Noctilux (on topic - see) if they could have avoided police
>violence. For
>that matter, I wonder why with all the looting and gun violence going on
>why
>police would have wasted their time with lone journalists wielding just
>a simple
>camera of any stripe?
>
>Maybe FEMA should issue a warning to photo journalists and other press
>personel to avoid dangerous, armed roaming police personel at all costs.
>Sheesh, what a miserable country we live in - or so I'm sometimes led to
>think. My Ukrainian g'friend pretty much hates it here, and I defend this
>country to teeth. I'm gonna have a field day tomorrow when I see her.
>Can't help it, I'm crying here.
>
>Scott
>
>Timothy Atherton wrote:
>
> >if anyone is thinking of photographing in N.O.....
> >
> >>From Donald Winslow at the NPPA:
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Subject: Photojournalists Covering Katrina Fall Victim To Growing
> >Violence, Chaos
> >Importance: High
> >
> >
> >Full Story Online At:
> >http://www.nppa.org/news_and_events/news/2005/09/hurricane2.html
> >
> >Photojournalists Covering Katrina Fall Victim To Growing Violence, Chaos
> >
> >AUSTIN, TX (September 1, 2005) &shy; As photojournalists continue to 
> document
> >the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina?s violent assault on the Gulf Coast,
> >today they also found themselves documenting new violence and death among
> >the survivors, the refugees, and the looters and police and rescuers in 
> >New
> >Orleans, while some photojournalists even fell victim to the violence
> >themselves.
> >
> >Two veteran photojournalists - NPPA member Rick Wilking of Reuters and
> >Getty's Mark Wilson - were robbed of cameras and computer equipment today
> >while on assignment in a neighborhood in New Orleans, and a 
> >photojournalist
> >and a reporter were confronted at gunpoint and slammed against a wall by
> >police following a shoot-out between looters and cops that left at least 
> >one
> >person dead.
> >
> >Another photojournalist - Lucas Oleniuk of the Toronto Star - was knocked 
> >to
> >the ground by police, his gear taken from him initially, when he
> >photographed them shooting at looters and then beating one. A New York 
> >Times
> >photojournalist and Times-Picayune reporter Gordon Russell were slammed 
> >into
> >a wall by police at gunpoint after they witnessed a shoot-out between cops
> >and looters that left at least one person dead.
> >
> >In response to the growing violence and an increasing sense of despair 
> >among
> >the stranded survivors, some television networks have hired armed private
> >security firms to protect their journalists as they work to cover the 
> >story.
> >
> >Full Story Online At:
> >http://www.nppa.org/news_and_events/news/2005/09/hurricane2.html
> >
> >
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Replies: Reply from scott at adrenaline.com (Scott McLoughlin) ([Leica] FW: Photojournalists Covering Katrina Fall Victim To Growing Violence, Chaos)
In reply to: Message from chs2018 at med.cornell.edu (Chris Saganich) ([Leica] FW: Photojournalists Covering Katrina Fall Victim To Growing Violence, Chaos)