Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/08/07

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Subject: [Leica] kids... THIS IS AN OPEN APOLOGY! !
From: tedgrant at shaw.ca (Ted Grant)
Date: Sun Aug 7 15:51:54 2005
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 A couple of weeks ago Eric offered his opinion on a Steve Barbour photo... 
You may recall Steve's granddaughter emerging from the swimming pool.

Subject: Re: [Leica] kids... !

Eric's opinion:
>The only thing I'd change would be to reflect some light into her face to
>lessen the shadows under her eyes and separate her pupils a bit from her
>irises.<<<

Well the sabre tooth tiger came back with,  :-(
> Eric,
> For crying out loud get real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Sorry I have to de-lurk on this one and I'll pay for it both here at home 
> and on the screen, although on the screen the chances are limited I'll see 
> any Reponses!<<<

No excuses on my part. It was a bad mouth attack on an unsuspecting 
photographer simply because of his opinion. And not satisfied with the first 
outburst I went on...

> But damn it, this is the stupidest comment on a picture of a child that 
> happens in split-seconds and your telling the photographer he should ...

Eric's comment, A simple opinion offered below:

>reflect some light into her face to lessen the shadows under her eyes and 
>separate her pupils a bit from her irises.<<<

Unfortunately I contunue the attack:
> I'm sorry that's bull shit when it's an instant of happening and the great 
> reaction of a fine photographer who grabs the instant moment. Hell if you 
> were shooting under identical conditions and you'd shot this, you'd have 
> been only too glad you had a photograph as good as this.<<<

And I continued:
> OK if you are messing around on a "studio shoot" and have exactly every 
> bit of control I might agree with your comments. But let's get real and 
> realize this is a split second life moment and a grab shot!
>
> But surely under the circumstance of a quick instant moment and you're 
> suggesting correcting light?  Get real, life isn't like that in 
> uncontrolled life moments!
>
> Your comment is bloody nonsense under the circumstances, although well 
> meaning!!<<<<<<<<<

Well ladies and gentlemen you can see I was absolutely mouth out of control 
on a LUG family member simply for his opinion. Quite frankly I still have 
the post and have read it several times feeling bloody embarassed and 
absolutely foolish each time I did. I looked to offer this apology since I 
first posted it realizing how bad I sounded in offending a screen friend..

Today was the day,
So with this Eric I offer my humblest of apologies for such a callous and 
loud mouthed out burst. And to the LUG family for such bad manners.

ted



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