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Subject: [Leica] F1 and soccer
From: kargue at sympatico.ca (Kevin Argue)
Date: Wed Jun 22 18:57:40 2005

Nathan- Americans hate soccer! TV sportscasters even make jokes about.
During this past winter I had 5 months of laying around watching TV due to a
double broken ankle and broken leg resulting from covering a sporting event
for the paper. British soccer is played in real time. American football is a
60 minute game that takes 3-4 hours to play. I have even stood on the
sidelines watching the on field producer telling the referee when to start
and stop for commercial breaks. As for motorsports, Canadians lean more to
Europe than the US. There are a lot of F1 fans hear and the Canadian GP is a
successful event. We have Canadians racing motorcycles including speedway
bikes in the UK and continent while there is less opportunities in the US.
This summer Toronto will host 2 visiting Scottish Football teams for an
exhibition game . We have also hosted India-Pakistan cricket test matches
and our local rugby team will host a visiting British Army team. Nascar?
What is Nascar?

cheers,
Kevin

> From: Nathan Wajsman <nathan.wajsman@planet.nl>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 06:50:03 +0200
> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] F1 and soccer
> 
> I personally find F1 boring because there is so little passing. I much
> prefer to watch motorcycle racing, partly because I ride one myself
> (although my riding bears no resemblance to what I see on TV--I ride
> very conservatively) but mostly because there is a lot more action. Very
> rarely do you see someone leading from start to finish.
> 
> I was thinking of going to the races at Assen in the north of the
> Netherlands at the end of the month, but then realized that there would
> be precious little opportunity for photography (except for the other
> fans). I tried to ingratiate myself to a colleague whose boyfriend is a
> motor journalist so as to get access to the pit areas, but to no
> avail...so I will just watch on TV.
> 
> As for soccer in the US, I think it is developing now in a very healthy
> way (as opposed to the initial attempts in the 1970s using retired stars
> from Europe and South America). Those millions of kids who play it at
> school are growing up, and some of them are now playing in England and
> other top European leagues. As a result, the US national team is better
> than ever (yes, I know about their shock defeat of England in 1950, but
> that was a fluke, now they are consistently good). I predict that within
> the next couple of decades we will see USA in a World Cup final.
> 
> Nathan
> 
> Lawrence Zeitlin wrote:
> 
>> <<Soccer and Formula One do not fit the current
>> USian paradigm:  either can be made to work here, but they need a far more
>> patient and developed business plan than either has yet produced.>>
>> 
>> ==========
>> 
>> I agree about Formula 1 but not about soccer. F1 is BORING unless you
>> are intimately familiar with the drivers and the car manufacturers. What
>> is exciting about a race where Michael Schmacher wins most of the races,
>> where the team in the lead at the start generally stays in front till
>> the end, where the order of finishing for a team is predetermined by the
>> driver's contracts, and where the cars have almost no relevance to those
>> the average fan drives. Give me NASCAR with Chevrolets, Dodges and
>> Fords. Where drivers are good old boys who are not above running
>> competitors off the track, where the winning driver squirts champagne
>> instead of drinking it. It's almost as exciting as driving in Boston.
>> 
>> Soccer, on the other hand, has almost made it in the US. Fox TV has a
>> channel devoted primarily to soccer. You can watch a game almost any
>> time, day or night on the foreign language TV stations. Liverpool
>> winning the European championship had a TV audience in the US nearly as
>> big as the average baseball game.
>> 
>> Remember, this is a country of Soccer Moms and Nascar Dads. F1 is
>> nowhere to be found.
>> 
>> Larry Z
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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