Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/06/08
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]No, if you really want the company to survive, the thing to hope for is the end of the M film line and the beginning of the digital M line. Because if they build it - and it is excellent, and it doesn't cost more than current high-end DSLR bodies - people will definitely buy it. Photojournalists will once again be using Leicas. Rich people will buy them. Not so rich people will even buy them. Such a camera might just keep Leica afloat for a while. On 6/8/05 4:09 PM, "Gene E. McCluney" <mccluney@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> Good points, B.D.! One thing that makes me doubt any imminet "end >> of the M" is that I seem to recall hearing somewhere---was it here >> on the LUG?---that it's the R series equipment that was heavily into >> the red ink, and that the M series was doing rather better. But >> please correct me if that recollection were mistaken. >> >> Art Peterson > > > It is really of no importance whether the "R" line is currently in > the red, or at least "redder" than the "M" line. What is relevant is > rationalizing production costs in reference to a predominantly > Digital product output. It makes much more sense to "spin off" a new > film "M" mount camera from whatever technology has to be in place to > make the Digital "M" mount camera. I doubt Leica could sustain > multiple product lines making essentially incompatible parts cameras. > They will have to have a design that will work for both digital and > film with little difference in core parts (except for the digital > bits), in order to continue making film cameras as production items. > > It is old news that the Digital "M" would have to have a metal > vertical running shutter, similar to the "R" cameras due to the > requirements of the imager chip. Who knows, maybe the shutter will > be outsourced from Copal even. I assume Leica will adhere to the > good tactile and sensory perception of their products and in the end > the products will be perceived as top of the line. > > Gene McCluney > > > > >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: lug-bounces+arthur.peterson=navy.mil@leica-users.org >> [mailto:lug-bounces+arthur.peterson=navy.mil@leica-users.org]On Behalf >> Of B. D. Colen >> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 15:12 >> To: Leica Users Group >> Subject: Re: [Leica] The End of The "M" >> >> >> Uh, "cheesy Newsweek hoax?" Isn't it odd that while the world has been >> trashing Newsweek for its "cheesy hoax," verified report after verified >> report of Koran desecration has come out - including from the Pentagon? >> Yet >> people speak of the "cheesy Newsweek hoax." Seems to me Newsweek got the >> essential story right, and first; they were simply off on some of what are >> essentially meaningless details. So if you really care one way or another >> about whether Ms are made in the future, I'd hope this is more like the >> weapons of mass destruction hoax (did I say that?! :-)) than the "Newsweek >> hoax." >> >> Now, as to it being a troll, a hoax, etc....Who knows. But at this point >> it >> would hardly be shocking - nor would it matter much, given that there are >> enough M cameras out there to supply all those who want them unto the >> second >> and third generations. The only people to whom the "death of the M" will >> really matter are those who work making them - the rest of those who care >> about Ms will have them as long as they want them. >> >> >> >> >> On 6/8/05 1:05 PM, "mcyclwritr@comcast.net" <mcyclwritr@comcast.net> >> wrote: >> >>> Shades of Deep Throat? Perhaps he/she will be known as Wide Aperature. >>> >>> On the other hand, it might be another cheesy Newsweek hoax: >>> "Adherents to sacred Leica M riot over flushing of M-series." >>> >>> -Chris Lawson >>> >>> >>> >>> Ted writes: >>> >>>> Aaaaaahhhhhh the anonymous shadowy figure in the darkend under ground >>>> parking lot whispers anonymously....... "The M end is near!" >>>> >>>> And the faithful fall upon their knees crying, whailing with great >>>> gnashing >>>> of teeth pleading the end not cometh! The sky fills with blackening >>>> clouds >>>> and flashing Leica lightening!!!!!! Red dots rain from the heavens for >>>> 30 >>>> days and 30 nights, all to avail. The end cometh sayeth the anonymous >>>> shadowy figure! ;-) >>> >>> >>>> Leonard J Kapner offered: >>>> Subject: [Leica] The End of The "M" >>>> >>>> >>>>> Just to get our juices flowing this morning, here's a message that >>>>> appeared In the photo.net Leica discussion group this morning from >>>>> Kipling >>>>> Phillips: >>>>> >>>>> I just talked to the manager of a large camera distributor here in >>>>> Germany >>>>> and he told me that he's received information that the "M" camera >>>>> line is >>>>> to be discontinued.I can't give any names.<<< >>>> >>>> Aaaaaahhhhhh the anonymous shadowy figure in the darkend under ground >>>> parking lot whispers anonymously....... "The M end is near!" >>>> >>>> And the faithful fall upon their knees crying, whailing with great >>>> gnashing >>>> of teeth pleading the end not cometh! The sky fills with blackening >>>> clouds >>>> and flashing Leica lightening!!!!!! Red dots rain from the heavens for >>>> 30 >>>> days and 30 nights, all to avail. The end cometh sayeth the anonymous >>>> shadowy figure! ;-) >>>> >>>> WOW! What a great rumour to start mid-week, heck we should get a >>>> couple >>>> of >>>> weeks worth of exciting horse hockey rumour filled key pounding out of >>>> this >>>> one! ;-) >>>> >>>> And the price on my M7's just went up a grand! ;-) Keep the rumours >>>> going! >>>> ;-) >>>> >>>> ted >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information