Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/06/08
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I'm in for a Digital-M only if there is a warranty saying I can get a sensor and software update every 2 years. If the bodywork and VF/RF last for generations then where's the sense of putting in a sensor system that is obsolete within a year or two. Douglas B. D. Colen wrote: > No, if you really want the company to survive, the thing to hope for is the > end of the M film line and the beginning of the digital M line. Because if > they build it - and it is excellent, and it doesn't cost more than current > high-end DSLR bodies - people will definitely buy it. Photojournalists will > once again be using Leicas. Rich people will buy them. Not so rich people > will even buy them. Such a camera might just keep Leica afloat for a while. > > > On 6/8/05 4:09 PM, "Gene E. McCluney" <mccluney@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > >>>Good points, B.D.! One thing that makes me doubt any imminet "end >>>of the M" is that I seem to recall hearing somewhere---was it here >>>on the LUG?---that it's the R series equipment that was heavily into >>>the red ink, and that the M series was doing rather better. But >>>please correct me if that recollection were mistaken. >>> >>>Art Peterson >> >> >>It is really of no importance whether the "R" line is currently in >>the red, or at least "redder" than the "M" line. What is relevant is >>rationalizing production costs in reference to a predominantly >>Digital product output. It makes much more sense to "spin off" a new >>film "M" mount camera from whatever technology has to be in place to >>make the Digital "M" mount camera. I doubt Leica could sustain >>multiple product lines making essentially incompatible parts cameras. >>They will have to have a design that will work for both digital and >>film with little difference in core parts (except for the digital >>bits), in order to continue making film cameras as production items. >> >>It is old news that the Digital "M" would have to have a metal >>vertical running shutter, similar to the "R" cameras due to the >>requirements of the imager chip. Who knows, maybe the shutter will >>be outsourced from Copal even. I assume Leica will adhere to the >>good tactile and sensory perception of their products and in the end >>the products will be perceived as top of the line. >> >>Gene McCluney >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: lug-bounces+arthur.peterson=navy.mil@leica-users.org >>>[mailto:lug-bounces+arthur.peterson=navy.mil@leica-users.org]On Behalf >>>Of B. D. Colen >>>Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 15:12 >>>To: Leica Users Group >>>Subject: Re: [Leica] The End of The "M" >>> >>> >>>Uh, "cheesy Newsweek hoax?" Isn't it odd that while the world has been >>>trashing Newsweek for its "cheesy hoax," verified report after verified >>>report of Koran desecration has come out - including from the Pentagon? >>>Yet >>>people speak of the "cheesy Newsweek hoax." Seems to me Newsweek got the >>>essential story right, and first; they were simply off on some of what are >>>essentially meaningless details. So if you really care one way or another >>>about whether Ms are made in the future, I'd hope this is more like the >>>weapons of mass destruction hoax (did I say that?! :-)) than the "Newsweek >>>hoax." >>> >>>Now, as to it being a troll, a hoax, etc....Who knows. But at this point >>>it >>>would hardly be shocking - nor would it matter much, given that there are >>>enough M cameras out there to supply all those who want them unto the >>>second >>>and third generations. The only people to whom the "death of the M" will >>>really matter are those who work making them - the rest of those who care >>>about Ms will have them as long as they want them. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>On 6/8/05 1:05 PM, "mcyclwritr@comcast.net" <mcyclwritr@comcast.net> >>>wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Shades of Deep Throat? Perhaps he/she will be known as Wide Aperature. >>>> >>>> On the other hand, it might be another cheesy Newsweek hoax: >>>> "Adherents to sacred Leica M riot over flushing of M-series." >>>> >>>> -Chris Lawson >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Ted writes: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Aaaaaahhhhhh the anonymous shadowy figure in the darkend under ground >>>>> parking lot whispers anonymously....... "The M end is near!" >>>>> >>>>> And the faithful fall upon their knees crying, whailing with great >>>>>gnashing >>>>> of teeth pleading the end not cometh! The sky fills with blackening >>>>> clouds >>>>> and flashing Leica lightening!!!!!! Red dots rain from the heavens for >>>>> 30 >>>>> days and 30 nights, all to avail. The end cometh sayeth the anonymous >>>>> shadowy figure! ;-) >>>> >>>> >>>>> Leonard J Kapner offered: >>>>> Subject: [Leica] The End of The "M" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Just to get our juices flowing this morning, here's a message that >>>>>> appeared In the photo.net Leica discussion group this morning from >>>>>>Kipling >>>>>> Phillips: >>>>>> >>>>>> I just talked to the manager of a large camera distributor here in >>>>>>Germany >>>>>> and he told me that he's received information that the "M" camera >>>>>> line is >>>>>> to be discontinued.I can't give any names.<<< >>>>> >>>>> Aaaaaahhhhhh the anonymous shadowy figure in the darkend under ground >>>>> parking lot whispers anonymously....... "The M end is near!" >>>>> >>>>> And the faithful fall upon their knees crying, whailing with great >>>>>gnashing >>>>> of teeth pleading the end not cometh! The sky fills with blackening >>>>> clouds >>>>> and flashing Leica lightening!!!!!! Red dots rain from the heavens for >>>>> 30 >>>>> days and 30 nights, all to avail. The end cometh sayeth the anonymous >>>>> shadowy figure! ;-) >>>>> >>>>> WOW! What a great rumour to start mid-week, heck we should get a >>>>> couple >>>>>of >>>>> weeks worth of exciting horse hockey rumour filled key pounding out of >>>>>this >>>>> one! ;-) >>>>> >>>>> And the price on my M7's just went up a grand! ;-) Keep the rumours >>>>> going! >>>>> ;-) >>>>> >>>>> ted >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Leica Users Group. >>>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Leica Users Group. >>>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Leica Users Group. >>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >