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Subject: [Leica] leica digital back-initial test results
From: rdcb37 at dodo.com.au (Rick Dykstra)
Date: Sun Apr 10 14:46:01 2005
References: <BE7DA38F.208BD%telyt@earthlink.net> <019201c53d5a$ef2a87a0$6701a8c0@ccapr.com> <4cfa589b050410114556a1b398@mail.gmail.com>

Rather than autofocus or focus confirmation, I'd rather have image 
stabilisation of some kind.  That would appear to be quite do-able for 
the next R body.

Don't need the first two.

Regards, Rick.

On 11/04/2005, at 4:45 AM, Adam Bridge wrote:

> This is a bit disingenuous, I think, because it's clearly aimed at
> folks who are already in the R marketplace. It's for folks who already
> have invested in Leica glass and want to conserve that investment and
> whose shooting style is mirrored by the Leica R design.
>
> I'm now convinced (from living with the 1Ds Mk II) that having lots of
> pixels is a damn good idea and that having LOW NOISE pixels is an even
> better one. I'd take 10 MP over 16 if there was a stop or two better
> noise characteristics.
>
> I'll shoot my long Leica glass withe the 1Ds and continue to love the
> results. But the next lens I buy will probably be the 70-200 f2.8L IS
> lens. Because it will meet my needs.
>
> I hope Leica produces an absolute KILLER back for the R8 and then
> makes the digital M that's even better, first because I want the great
> Leica optics and second because the marketplace needs high-quality
> competition - something that holds the bar high - like Leica glass has
> continued to do.
>
> I'd like to see Leica get with the times and try something
> revolutionary like auto-focus or at least focus confirmation but I'm
> not holding my breath for THAT. I think it's already too late for them
> to enter the market there.
>
> Ah well, back to shooting....
>
> adam
>
> On Apr 9, 2005 4:22 PM, B. D. Colen <bdcolen@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> And Doug said it was going to sell for $4K, I believe...The price of 
>> the
>> back and a body is now more than an EOS1DsMKII FULL FRAME dslr. Hell 
>> of
>> a bargain. And it will be interesting to see how long there's a 
>> company
>> around to support it.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
>> [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf 
>> Of
>> Doug Herr
>> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 6:22 PM
>> To: Leica Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] leica digital back-initial test results
>>
>> on 4/9/05 3:09 PM, SonC@aol.com at SonC@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Probably B.D. with his usual adulation of Leica, no matter what.
>>>
>>>
>>> SonC
>>>
>>
>> Nahhh... B.D. said it was vaporware.
>>
>> Doug Herr
>> Birdman of Sacramento
>> http://www.wildlightphoto.com
>>
>>> In a message dated 4/9/2005 5:02:50 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>>> jls@runbox.com writes:
>>>
>>> Falcon?
>>>
>>> Jeffery Smith
>>> New Orleans,  LA
>>> http://www.400tx.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From:  lug-bounces+jls=runbox.com@leica-users.org
>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+jls=runbox.com@leica-users.org]  On Behalf Of
>>> lennie falcon
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 12:30  PM
>>> To: lug@leica-users.org
>>> Subject: [Leica] leica digital back-initial  test results
>>>
>>> we have been testing the digital r back for the past three  days and
>>> thought we would share some preliminary findings. leica usa has
>>> loaned us their initial pre-production unit and the findings have 
>>> been
>>
>>> quite favourable. we have thoroughly tested the unit attached to a g5
>>> in  the studio and on location. it has performed flawlessly using the
>>
>>> imacon software. we have done side by sides with a kodak 760, a valeo
>>> 11  and a sinar 54. the unit exceeds the 760 and the 11 in colour and
>>> it is on  par with the sinar. the imacon software in combination with
>>> the digital r  is probably the easiest high-end digital tethered
>>> package we  have experienced to date. we have not used the leica
>>> processing  software because of time constraints (the photoshop plug
>>> in is rgb, so we  choose the imacon because it has a cmyk engine but
>>> we assume it to be  excellent based on the the overall performance
>>> characteristics.
>>>
>>> the  major highlights (we will publish expande test results and 
>>> images
>>
>>> this  coming week on the lug):
>>>
>>> 1. the colour in raw-file format is  outstanding, better than any
>>> digital camera we have tested with the  exceptions of the sinar 
>>> system
>>
>>> and the lumiere. fro practical purposes the  only the sinar is equal.
>>>
>>> 2. the chip is very, very clean. noise levels  at 100 and 200 are
>>> extremely hard to find, if at all. at 400 and 800 the  chip is 
>>> cleaner
>>
>>> than everything we have seen of late.
>>>
>>> 3. the leica  lenses in combination with the back offer unparallelled
>>> image quality in a  30mb file. we are testing with 60mm macro(3-cam),
>>> the 28mm pc, the 100mm  macro and the 21-35mm zoom.
>>>
>>> we will publish our results after first  sharing the information with
>>> leica, but from our experiences, thus far, the  neagatives are very,
>>> very few. we have three photographers sharing the  unit, so our
>>> experiences are quite diverse. our output people are the very  best 
>>> in
>>
>>> the country using state of the art eval. techniques and equipment.
>>> stay  tuned.
>>>
>>> falcon
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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