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Subject: [Leica] B. D. PAW
From: bdcolen at earthlink.net (B. D. Colen)
Date: Sat Mar 26 07:04:13 2005

Of course we can, Jayanand -  I've stated repeatedly in this discussion
that I think that combining photographs, or elements of photographs, is
a perfectly valid art form - I've said repeatedly that the standards for
photojournalism and art photography are different. What I guess you
can't deal with is my saying that combining elements of multiple
photographs does not produce a photograph - it produces a photomontage,
or a photocollage, or anything you care to call it other than
"photograph."

Looks to me like your reading of posts may be too narrow and limiting.
;-)

B. D.

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
Jayanand Govindaraj
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 9:40 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] B. D. PAW


B.D & Ted,
Cant you look beyond photojournalism and agree that other visions exist.

What you say reminds me of the Paris salons of the 19th century, where 
pundits used to declare that Ingres was painting, but Manet was
not...Looks 
to me that your view is too narrow and limiting.
Cheers
Jayanand Govindaraj
Chennai, India

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 12:06 AM
Subject: RE: [Leica] B. D. PAW


> Not at all, Jorg - You are using Photoshop to make the same kind of 
> essential adjustments with a computer that have traditionally been 
> made in the darkroom. And as to those who asked about double exposure 
> - I'd say sure that's photography...HOWEVER...If it's done in a 
> photojournalism context, it should be labeled a double exposure.
>
> Obviously we can come up with endless lists of 'what is thises?' and 
> 'what is thatses?' The real question, however, is probably 'to be 
> called a "photograph," does the end product have to -at a minimum - 
> contain only what was captured in the original negative or in the 
> original electronic capture?' - and I would say "Yes." That allows 
> lots of room for work in the darkroom...and I would of course not 
> quibble with Sonny over whether someone adds their signature in the 
> darkroom or not. Damn, Sonny, got some ground glass in your grits this

> morning or what? :-)
>
> B. D.
>
> 


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