[Leica] DMR wins award

[henningw at archiphoto.com (Henning Wulff)]

At 4:53 PM -0500 3/7/05, B. D. Colen wrote:
>It's hardly fair, Henning, to compare the DMR at $7900 - cost of a back
>and front ;-) - with a Digital Rebel at $800 or $900. If you want to do
>comparisons, compare the DMR with the Canon EOS1DMkII or 1DsMkII.
>Obviously the DMR is going to still win, simply because the R has such a
>gorgeous viewfinder, but the comparison isn't going to be nearly as
>odious. Likewise, if you want to look at Olympus, look a the E1, not the
>E300. Again, the DMR will win on viewfinder, but it won't be quite as
>much of a trounce.
>
>Meanwhile,looking at the present cost of the DMR and an R9, that little
>combo is now dead even with the full frame, full featured, autofocus,
>Canon EOS1DsMkII. Which also mounts Leica manual focus lenses.

I don't disagree with you BD, and I'm not in the market for a DMR 
'cause I never saw enough value in the Leica R system to buy into it. 
Also, the EOS 1D, 1Ds etc neither work that well with the Leica R 
lenses (no stop down, poor exposure integration) nor is their finder 
as good. The Canons obviously have other advantages, and a number of 
their lenses need apologize to no one.

The reason I posted what I did was because the comparison was laid 
out for me in the previous message, namely that one of the 
outstanding advantages of the R-DMR combo is what is severely lacking 
in the 'cheap' DSLR's. The E-1 hardly figures into this sort of 
comparison.

Now, if you want to compare the E-1 to the 20D....  :-)

>-----Original Message-----
>From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
>[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
>Henning Wulff
>Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 4:22 PM
>To: Leica Users Group
>Subject: Re: [Leica] DMR wins award
>
>
>At 7:20 AM +1100 3/8/05, Rick Dykstra wrote:
>>Saw this on another list.  The DMR won an award from the Digital
>>Imaging Marketing Association (DIMA).  Not exactly sure but I think
>>the category was 'Digital Back for Professional 35mm Camera that can
>>still use film'.  Slam dunked the competition!  Still, well done
>>Leica.  It looks like the DMR is just around the corner.
>>
>>http://www.photoworkshop.com/double_exposure/publish/LeicaWinsAwards.sh
>>tml
>>
>>What really got my attention at the same site though is the new
>>Digital Rebel with 8 lotsapixies.  One view would be that other
>>brands' entry level consumer grade lightweight plastic SLRs are
>>close to out-gunning the DMR, for less than a quarter the cost.  I
>>expect that everyone who buys a DMR will be convinced that it offers
>>more.  Hmm ....
>>
>>Rick.
>
>See the first section of:
>
>http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-mar-05.shtml
>
>IMO the viewfinder is the worst thing about the 20D, and the DRebel
>was worse. To go even further down that path may be cheaper, but how
>far can you go and still have an idea of what you're shooting?
>
>Not to say that the DRebel isn't a better solution for most people
>than the DMR, but the R-DMR solution certainly offers things that the
>competition isn't covering.
>
>One of the things I like best about the Leica M's is their
>viewfinder, and therefore to see the devolution of this important (to
>people who take 'seeing' seriously) item to something like an EVF or
>the viewfinder on the new Rebel or Olympus E-300 seems grotesque.
>
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